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I mean after WW II and all and Chamberlain's request with Hitler there were items like this:
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The Conference on Security and Co-operation in Europe, which opened at Helsinki on 3 July 1973 and continued at Geneva from 18 September 1973 to 21 July 1975, was concluded at Helsinki on 1 August 1975 by the High Representatives of Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Finland, France, the German Democratic Republic, the Federal Republic of Germany, Greece, the Holy See, Hungary, Iceland, Ireland, Italy, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg, Malta, Monaco, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom, the United States of America and Yugoslavia.
During the opening and closing stages of the Conference the participants were addressed by the Secretary-General of the United Nations as their guest of honour. The Director-General of UNESCO and the Executive Secretary of the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe addressed the Conference during its second stage.
During the meetings of the second stage of the Conference, contributions were received, and statements heard, from the following non-participating Mediterranean States on various agenda items: the Democratic and Popular Republic of Algeria, the Arab Republic of Egypt, Israel, the Kingdom of Morocco, the Syrian Arab Republic, Tunisia.
Motivated by the political will, in the interest of peoples, to improve and intensify their relations and to contribute in Europe to peace, security, justice and cooperation as well as to rapprochement among themselves and with the other States of the world,
Determined, in consequence, to give full effect to the results of the Conference and to assure, among their States and throughout Europe, the benefits deriving from those results and thus to broaden, deepen and make continuing and lasting the process of détente,
There isn't much credibility with their judgment. They were as dense as Gerald Ford, Nixon, Carter, Kennedy and Johnson were... they still didn't learn even by watching atrocities through a century in their own backyard.
About the passport thing... They are pretty expensive to get in the US, both in terms of time and money. Last time I checked they were at least $100 for the book and card, and another $50 for processing. Not many people want to go through the process, which is why most Americans chose to travel within the US, since there is plenty of geographic diversity and no limitations to crossing state lines.
I think one of the reasons that many Americans do not leave the USA is because Amrica has it all. If you want snow go up North, If you want tropical climes go down south, If you want European type places go East. etc etc.
This is great but it does make many in the USA naive to how other Countries exist or behave or work.
Um, why are Americans so woefully ignorant about Europe?
People know about the things they are exposed to. People in China know about China. People in Australia know about Australia. People who have traveled know about the places they've visited. People who read books know about those books' topics through the author's sensibilities. People who watch television or go to movies know about those topics through the medium. Even your basic argument that Europeans are ignorant about the United States is based on fragmented information and your interpretation of it.
strange, I dont see alot of americans wanting to have a certain president or prime minister in control of a european country, not like they do in europe about american politics.
strange, I dont see alot of americans wanting to have a certain president or prime minister in control of a european country, not like they do in europe about american politics.
Maybe more Americans would have a view of European politics if they were better informed. Europe has quite a lot of coverage about American Politics.
I think one of the reasons that many Americans do not leave the USA is because Amrica has it all. If you want snow go up North, If you want tropical climes go down south, If you want European type places go East. etc etc. This is great but it does make many in the USA naive to how other Countries exist or behave or work.
I agree. Plus, the expenses pile up if you want to travel anywhere other than Mexico or Canada. Anywhere else will require long trips by air, and as expensive as air travel has become, I can see why Americans prefer to drive a few hundred miles to the ocean, mountains, etc. as opposed to booking a flight overseas. However, in Europe, you see similar practices. You can slip over into a neighboring country which would be something like crossing state lines here in the US. Which begs the question.. How is an American vacationing to a neighboring state any different than a European simply visiting a neighboring country? Sure, governing style and local customs may be different, but that holds true to both American states and European nations.
And truth be told, I would rather visit a place such as the Grand Canyon or explore the Rockies as opposed to taking a long flight to explore Europe or Asia.
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Maybe more Americans would have a view of European politics if they were better informed. Europe has quite a lot of coverage about American Politics.
The only problem I noticed about European media reporting on American politics is that they fail to provide significant background information and assume that everyone knows the prelude to political situations. That right there is one of the primary reasons for stereotyping and filling in the blanks on what people assume to be true. A good example is the poster a page or two back that believes Palin is extremely popular among all Americans, or that everyone is part of the Westboro Baptist church.
"European support for the U.S. president's handling of foreign policy has soared since President Barack Obama took over from former President George W. Bush, but Europeans continue to view major issues including Afghanistan, Iran and global warming differently than Americans view them, a poll released Wednesday found."
A snake's belly is not a great distance to soar...
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Barack Obama cast himself as a "citizen of the world" when he delivered his well-received campaign speech in Berlin in the summer of 2008. But the US president has now betrayed this claim. In his Berlin speech, he was dishonest with Europe.
I agree. Plus, the expenses pile up if you want to travel anywhere other than Mexico or Canada. Anywhere else will require long trips by air, and as expensive as air travel has become, I can see why Americans prefer to drive a few hundred miles to the ocean, mountains, etc. as opposed to booking a flight overseas. However, in Europe, you see similar practices. You can slip over into a neighboring country which would be something like crossing state lines here in the US. Which begs the question.. How is an American vacationing to a neighboring state any different than a European simply visiting a neighboring country? Sure, governing style and local customs may be different, but that holds true to both American states and European nations. Europeans now tend to travel further away. The great thing about going to the "Continent" ,which is what we call mainland Europe, is that there is a lot of diversity in culture. The French are so different from the Germans and the Spanish are so different from the Dutch. Etc, Etc. It is lovely to be able to pop over to Dublin or Paris just for the day, weekend or whatever. Since i married my American wife i have been to a few different States in the USA. They are different but with the same core. I think if i lived to 100 i would never see all of America and what it has to offer. Most Americans are very insular and are not travel savvy. The amount of people i have given English Coins to and they look at it as if it was from another planet. When i see the stupid comments on here about Europe it just reinforces my opinion that many Americans should get out of America and see how the rest of the world really is.
And truth be told, I would rather visit a place such as the Grand Canyon or explore the Rockies as opposed to taking a long flight to explore Europe or Asia.
Europe and Asia have one thing America doesn't...Long History. There are many fascinating places in Europe and Asia. Even London has amazing history. The swiss alps are amazing. Walking along the River Sane in Paris in the spring is wonderful. The Great Wall of China is mind boggling...i could go on all day.
The only problem I noticed about European media reporting on American politics is that they fail to provide significant background information and assume that everyone knows the prelude to political situations. That right there is one of the primary reasons for stereotyping and filling in the blanks on what people assume to be true. A good example is the poster a page or two back that believes Palin is extremely popular among all Americans, or that everyone is part of the Westboro Baptist church.
Some news media in the UK are not favourable to the USA ( BBC for example). Obama is very well recieved in Europe but i think there is a certain amount of jelousy over the American lifestyle.Some People in Europe think that everyone in America has a swimming pool and a huge house and Huge car. Now i spend time in the USA i have found its best feature are the normal down to earth Americans. The "Elitists" are a cancer to America but they are in all countries. America must learn that it is no longer the centre of the Universe and it should use successful methods from other countries. Ignorance of other Countries is a two way street and Both America and Europe can be extremely ignorant of the others politics, culture etc.
It's not ignorance when those countries that it's suppose to "follow" would have made all the wrong mistakes and gone down on the ash heap of history without it's help. If we left the future up to "those" countries they'd be communist now and only because they'd have no other choice, they'd be under martial law or NAZI rule. Our questioning of their ability to make decisions for themselves is justified by history. Our national debt is laden with us having to "bail them out.".
It's not ignorance when those countries that it's suppose to "follow" would have made all the wrong mistakes and gone down on the ash heap of history without it's help. If we left the future up to "those" countries they'd be communist now and only because they'd have no other choice, they'd be under martial law or NAZI rule. Our questioning of their ability to make decisions for themselves is justified by history. Our national debt is laden with us having to "bail them out.".
America helped the allies win WW2 but please don't get the idea that America rode in and saved the day.
If you want to talk about "bailing out" you should think about how the UK has now gone to war in Iraq to help America. How The UK was toe to toe with America against Sadam in Desert Storm. Without the UK, America could never have gained support from other Countries or won the war in Iraq
Let's get real here.
Maybe more Americans would have a view of European politics if they were better informed. Europe has quite a lot of coverage about American Politics.
probably more like we dont really give a damn who runs your country and that foreigners should stay out of our politics as well.
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