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Who would you rather have as a doctor? A doctor who is concerned primarily about your HEALTH or a doctor who is primarily concerned about his PROFIT margin? I'd prefer the former myself. If your doctor is in it for the money, I'd find another doctor. Profit and greed is not what healthcare should be about!
Why would you assume that a person who cares about money is greedy??? Do YOU care about money?? OF COURSE!! That does not mean that you are "greedy".
I want the rational doctor. A person that cares about their craft is a person that isn't demotivated. Think about it. If your company needs to save money, are you equally motivated if they cut your pay, make you work a lot harder, while acquiring more risk to get sued?? Will you be demotivated?? If you were rational you would be. There are plenty of people who seem to think others should be irrational.
Health care IS about helping people; it's about a career; it's about making money; its about paying your bills (education, overheads etc).
It's NOT about "helping" people who chose to smoke, drink, have cell phones, not study hard, etc. MOST people who don't have health care could have it if they made better decisions but that is for a different thread.
Why would you assume that a person who cares about money is greedy??? Do YOU care about money?? OF COURSE!! That does not mean that you are "greedy".
I want the rational doctor. A person that cares about their craft is a person that isn't demotivated. Think about it. If your company needs to save money, are you equally motivated if they cut your pay, make you work a lot harder, while acquiring more risk to get sued?? Will you be demotivated?? If you were rational you would be. There are plenty of people who seem to think others should be irrational.
Health care IS about helping people; it's about a career; it's about making money; its about paying your bills (education, overheads etc).
It's NOT about "helping" people who chose to smoke, drink, have cell phones, not study hard, etc. MOST people who don't have health care could have it if they made better decisions but that is for a different thread.
Riiight and the fact that a lot of insurance companies won't take you if you have a pre-existing condition or if you're dropped from your previous health insurance provider, it can take YEARS for a private company to take you on for a customer?
My cell phone bill is 90 a month. I don't think I could get a good health insurance policy for 90 a month. I have acne and people have been denied health insurance because of acne. I've been to a counselor before and people have been denied health insurance because they've seen counselors.
Who would you rather have as a doctor? A doctor who is concerned primarily about your HEALTH or a doctor who is primarily concerned about his PROFIT margin? I'd prefer the former myself. If your doctor is in it for the money, I'd find another doctor. Profit and greed is not what healthcare should be about!
Read the part about being forced into running a business.
Health Care Meltdown: How Healthcare Became Big Business and Bad Medicine is also a good read.
There's nothing wrong with a doctor wanting to make money, we all need money to survive. I just don't want my health being put on the line because my doctor's main goal is $$$$$$$$$$. The same thing goes for hospitals. Of course I know there are hospitals out there putting patients' health and safety at risk all for the alimighty dollar.
It's NOT about "helping" people who chose to smoke, drink, have cell phones, not study hard, etc. MOST people who don't have health care could have it if they made better decisions but that is for a different thread.
Mississippi Insurance Commissioner Mike Chaney expressed outrage today that the state of Mississippi is one of eight states in the nation, including the District of Columbia, which allows insurance companies to consider domestic abuse as a pre-existing condition with which to deny health-care coverage. The National Women's Law Center reported in April that the state of Arkansas passed a law prohibiting insurance companies to pull coverage for domestic violence survivors, putting a spotlight on the remaining states.
I just don't want my health being put on the line because my doctor's main goal is $$$$$$$$$$. The same thing goes for hospitals. Of course I know there are hospitals out there putting patients' health and safety at risk all for the alimighty dollar.
You don't want a doctor who's main goal is money. OF COURSE NOT. That is such an obvious statement. Who would???
Re: those hospitals putting patients as risk for the almighty dollar. Have you seen the crisis hospitals are in?? Many are going bankrupt. They are mandated by law to help people yet no one will reimburse them for their mandates. So the gun is against their heads; accept Obamba care or we will keep on forcing you to treat for free. Do you still believe hospitals really want this if they were not forced to treat people for free? People are loosing their jobs and the quality is going down for us payers. I say if you don't pay, you don't get! Let the chips fall where they may.
So the almighty dollar really has more to do with the "almighty" survival. I think you see things through purple glasses.
[quote=i3est21;10776412]Why not invest in training more doctors?
EXCELLENT IDEA! This is how the military got its doctors: it pays for intelligent young people to go to medical school, in return for a few years of service (we found out about this program too late). The gov't could create a network of doctors, trained using gov't funds, to provide service to those who have no insurance or are under-insured. This would actually SOLVE a real problem, unlike current proposals that do nothing to control costs, but make the insurance companies and BigPharma even richer, among other disasterous effects. And to those of you who think Doctors won't quit, despite making less money--they make enough in these lucrative years to position themselves so they CAN quit if the rewards aren't worth it. Or they'll at least cut their hours drastically (thus further limiting the supply of medical care), to make sure they don't trigger the thresholds of increased taxes. Doctors aren't dumb. They won't continue to work long office hours for less money. There are MANY alternative things Doctors can do besides practice end-user medicine.
Who would you rather have as a doctor? A doctor who is concerned primarily about your HEALTH or a doctor who is primarily concerned about his PROFIT margin? I'd prefer the former myself. If your doctor is in it for the money, I'd find another doctor. Profit and greed is not what healthcare should be about!
Hey I would rather have basketball players in it for the love of the game, I wish they didn't worry about profit. You say this is a trivial comparison, I agree, health care is way more important so these folks should be compensated way more. I want the person who has my life in their hands compensated as well as possible.
[quote=MisterNY;10777248] The article is a load of crock. Doctors are staying put. They would be happy making the same salaries, and having to deal with less BS from insurance companies, and lower malpractice suits.
The problem is that under both the Senate and the House bills, there is NO protection from lawsuits (concession to the Trial Lawyer Lobby), doctors have much MORE Insurance Co BS, and they won't be making the same salaries even if they adhere to the new gov't requirements that they (1) they limit how many of their patients get specialist care and high-cost services, and (2) join big medical conglomerates (that the feds can directly control).
Why would 45% of doctor's give up their livelihood? It is not a government takeover. It is a change to the health insurance industry that would add a public insurance option.
Yes it makes no sense. Clearly not going to happen.
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Do YOU care about money?? OF COURSE!! That does not mean that you are "greedy". 
I think you see things through purple glasses.
How the Military Gets Doctors
