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New York City is considering banning smoking in public parks and beaches as part of a multi-pronged plan to make New Yorkers healthier, the health commissioner announced today.
“We don’t think children, parents when they’re standing at soccer games should have to be breathing in smoke from the person next to them,” Commissioner Thomas Farley said after unveiling the city’s plan. “We don’t think our children should have to be watching someone smoke.”
Indoor smoking I can understand, but outdoor smoking? I know smoking isn't the smartest thing to do, but smokers do have rights, as do the rest of us. It's not fair to limit someone's freedom just because you don't like what they do.
This seems to be more aesthetically pleasing than actually accomplishing anything..
Maybe if you jackass smokers didn't leave your stupid cigarette butts everywhere there wouldn't be such a backlash against them. Whenever I see someone smoking I wonder how many times they bother to throw out their butts.
This is a great example of how some believe it's alright to use health and children as weapons of provocation in the wider culture war. The fact is that most of the people proposing or supporting this are simply being disingenuous cowards. It would be far more respectable thought if it were stated with complete honestly.
Thus, people who smoke should not have a right to smoke. Those who insist on this practice should be continually segregated until it is made illegal. Tobacco and all smoking products should be made illegal. We can not allow people who practice a socially detestable habit any level of equal consideration whatsoever. People who have children should be morally and legally considered as having greater natural rights over those who do not. People who do have children and smoke should be held liable for child endangerment. Smoking around children should be considered the equivalent of child abuse, involuntary imprisonment, reckless endangerment, attempted manslaughter. Children must be taught that there are some cultural situations and practices in which their parents should be considered as an enemy to their interests. Private adult citizens should not be forced into freely negotiating shared public space with one another where the state can do it more efficiently. Zero tolerance is a legitimate supremacist concept. Let's keep it that way.
Unintended consequences can be funny things. My state, Wisconsin, have always had high taxes on tobacco products. But this year they just lost their mines and raised taxes so high that a carton of cigarettes are more than double their price a year ago. Guess what? Now they are complaining and having to make drastic cuts because they have lost so much sales tax revenue. Not only did their enormous tax hikes NOT bring them in additional revenue. They have lost millions of the sales tax revenues that they use to have because smokers are just getting their smokes from other states.
Unintended consequences can be funny things. My state, Wisconsin, have always had high taxes on tobacco products. But this year they just lost their mines and raised taxes so high that a carton of cigarettes are more than double their price a year ago. Guess what? Now they are complaining and having to make drastic cuts because they have lost so much sales tax revenue. Not only did their enormous tax hikes NOT bring them in additional revenue. They have lost millions of the sales tax revenues that they use to have because smokers are just getting their smokes from other states.
Yep, and that is why they are going to make it illegal to order cigarettes online. It's coming....
This is a great example of how some believe it's alright to use health and children as weapons of provocation in the wider culture war. The fact is that most of the people proposing or supporting this are simply being disingenuous cowards. It would be far more respectable thought if it were stated with complete honestly.
Thus, people who smoke should not have a right to smoke. Those who insist on this practice should be continually segregated until it is made illegal. Tobacco and all smoking products should be made illegal. We can not allow people who practice a socially detestable habit any level of equal consideration whatsoever. People who have children should be morally and legally considered as having greater natural rights over those who do not. People who do have children and smoke should be held liable for child endangerment. Smoking around children should be considered the equivalent of child abuse, involuntary imprisonment, reckless endangerment, attempted manslaughter. Children must be taught that there are some cultural situations and practices in which their parents should be considered as an enemy to their interests. Private adult citizens should not be forced into freely negotiating shared public space with one another where the state can do it more efficiently. Zero tolerance is a legitimate supremacist concept. Let's keep it that way.
Yep, he might as well go ahead and push this through so that he can continue on his quest of making smoking illegal in New York City. Once he accomplishes that he can decide what the next thing is that he wants to get on his bandwagon about.
New York City is considering banning smoking in public parks and beaches as part of a multi-pronged plan to make New Yorkers healthier, the health commissioner announced today.
“We don’t think children, parents when they’re standing at soccer games should have to be breathing in smoke from the person next to them,” Commissioner Thomas Farley said after unveiling the city’s plan. “We don’t think our children should have to be watching someone smoke.”
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