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Old 09-24-2009, 09:04 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Baucus said it was unaceptable to mislead seniors.
Who's misleading whom? The CBO supports Humana's statements. Humana told seniors the truth; Baucus is the one who wants to mislead seniors by failing to tell them they'll face cuts in their Medicare program.

Budget chief contradicts Obama on Medicare costs - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090923/ap_on_go_co/us_health_care_seniors - broken link)
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Okay....When did lying become acceptable free speech? When calling out some one for lying "Throwing out" the first amendment? Does that mean Joe Wilson also trampled on the first amendment then, and no one is saying a word?

He who permits himself to tell a lie once, finds it much easier to do it a second and third time, till at length it becomes habitual; he tells lies without attending to it, and truths without the world's believing him. This falsehood of tongue leads to that of the heart, and in time depraves all its good dispositions.
    • Thomas Jefferson Letter to Peter Carr (19 August 1785)
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:06 AM
 
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ALERT:* Obama Throws out First Amendment Free Speech Clause

Notice who is reporting this and who isnt
Fox news has mentioned it!

Sad enough this president is taking it more and more to what he really wants...to make this country into a socialist/communist country...he is showing his true colors.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Orlando, FL
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I hope that this was an editorial piece...it was horribly written.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:09 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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Fox news has mentioned it!

Sad enough this president is taking it more and more to what he really wants...to make this country into a socialist/communist country...he is showing his true colors.
So if a pharma company advertised on TV "This drug will cure cancer", and it didn't, you'd say just leave them be? Would that just be "Free Speech" to you?
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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I hope that this was an editorial piece...it was horribly written.
the whole site is basically an editorial piece.

and note that the source of their story is the *la times*!

edit: actually originally he associated press. isn't that the "left wing media"?
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:16 AM
 
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Okay....When did lying become acceptable free speech? When calling out some one for lying "Throwing out" the first amendment?
There's legal precedent that lying is not acceptable in commercial speech - i.e., advertisements have to tell the truth. A communication from a company to its clients probably falls under the category of commercial speech.

I do so love the "why aren't the MSM reporting this" whine, what with AP and LA Times in the bloody link itself. Some people have quite the persecution complex.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:17 AM
 
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From the link:

You were saying?

You must be confused. The original article was from the AP, yes.

This article is a Canadian commentary that pointedly calls out the Obama Administration and it's flunkies for blatant trampling of free speech.

Thus, I stand by my statement: American liberals should be embarrassed that even our northerly neighbors can see the writing on the wall, even though its obvious that the libs in question apparently cannot.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:21 AM
 
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aeroguydc, the author of this piece is not canadian. she is a syndicated columnist.
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Old 09-24-2009, 09:23 AM
 
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Canada Free Press is a conservative paper that uses pretty much exclusively American writers. The person that wrote this article is not Canadian.
Even if true (I see no evidence of that on the linked page), the fact that liberals are being dragged through the mud in Canada is a big enough knee slapper in itself. I trust that the Canadian people can read between the lines and conclude for themselves that the Obama-voters are nary an intelligent bunch. One doesn't have to look far to come to that conclusion based on the people they elect to office.
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