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Old 10-21-2009, 06:49 AM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Just watched Joe Scarborough saying the administration is making a mistake. He said the MSM ignored ACORN and Van Jones until the very last minute, then when it became obvious that it was legit, they HAD to cover them. And he said we might see the same thing with Anita Dunn.
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Old 10-21-2009, 06:53 AM
 
Location: Upstate
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Just watched Joe Scarborough saying the administration is making a mistake. He said the MSM ignored ACORN and Van Jones until the very last minute, then when it became obvious that it was legit, they HAD to cover them. And he said we might see the same thing with Anita Dunn.
But since Fox news is not a credible organization according to the White House, it's only credible when other news networks repeat exactly what Fox said and just use Fox research.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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But since Fox news is not a credible organization according to the White House, it's only credible when other news networks repeat exactly what Fox said and just use Fox research.
That is why Rahm Emmanuel told the other networks to ignore fox News. The only news organization doing investigative research is Fox, and Rahm wants to end any and all scrutiny of the administration.

Is it that the other networks are so liberal, that when they hear Anita Dunn cite Mao as the man she turns to the most , for her philosophical inspiration, that they nod their head in agreement.

Or it may be that they are disturbed by Dunn, Jones, ACORN et al..., but they are unwilling to report any news that may be harmful to 0bama or derail his agenda, so they choose to ignore it.

Or lastly, might it be that the liberal leaning news networks, bloggers and print media have no interest in performing their jobs as journalists when it comes to the 0bama administration. Maybe they are satisfied being stenographers; simply reporting as fact, anything 0bama and his administration say.

The last reason may be the most accurate. If they believe everything 0bama says comes from the burning bush, why bother to fact check at all? If 0bama and his advisers conduct research and state that unemployment will not rise above 8%, if his stimulus bill is passed, the press reports it as fact. If unemployment rises to 10% after his stimulus bill is passed, and 0bama and his advisers conduct research and make another prediction, then this is report as the new fact, and the old prediction is a non factor.

If the predictions by 0bama and his advisers are wrong every single time, it will not matter to the press, because the new predictions are new, and the old predictions are just so yesterday. The press will not fact check, not scrutinize, not challenge, not even doubt, they will simply report everything as fact. Like a secretary taking dictation, it's not the stenographer's place to challenge the boss, their job is just to type whatever he says, without question, scrutiny or analysis.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:58 AM
 
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But since Fox news is not a credible organization according to the White House, it's only credible when other news networks repeat exactly what Fox said and just use Fox research.
And it seems the others are watching Fox more and more.
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Old 10-21-2009, 07:59 AM
 
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Obama is looking VERY unpresidential. Personally, I can't wait for 2010.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:06 AM
 
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Absolutely. The uninformed (and I'm not meaning that in a mean way) people are very busy in their lives and don't have the time to watch a newsbroadcast. They may only get snippets.

So when you hear the President of the United States saying "there is one network out there that doesn't like me"...you hear his top advisors saying that Fox "is not really news". Then they start to believe that.

The scary thing is that if the WH succeds in quieting Fox, will another network dare go against the polices of the WH like Fox does? Heck no, they don't want the full power of the WH come down on them too.
Good points, especially that last one. By attacking Fox, the WH is sending a message to the other networks to be careful in what they say. The effect is intimidating and, perhaps, silencing them.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Good points, especially that last one. By attacking Fox, the WH is sending a message to the other networks to be careful in what they say. The effect is intimidating and, perhaps, silencing them.
I think that what you say is very much what they are trying to point out. Also, I think it is working on most of them other than Jake Tapper of ABC, at least at the time he asked tough questions of Gibbs yesterday. Tapper may be employed by Fox soon.
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Old 10-21-2009, 11:40 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Default If you disagree with the WH, you are an enemy

Obama is working systematically to marginalize the most powerful forces on the right, giving White House officials the task of undermining conservatives in the media, business and lobbying worlds. (Remember, he is also attacking the Chamber of Commerce, which he needs to do to continue to destroy capitalism.)

Engaging in public taunts and appearances on selected netoworks, the White House has targeted those who have an opposing opinion in order to marginalize and intimidate them.

This strategy is taken directly from the pages of Chicago community organizer Saul Alinsky’s book Rules for Radicals. It identifies thirteen rules for progressive activists including, “The thirteenth rule: “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Alinsky explains just how far progressives must be willing to go to marginalize their “enemies” (those who have differen views than the administration).

The WH is doing it "by the book". (get it - available on Amazon.com. It will give you a good look inside the mind and soul of Obama, who he is and what he believes. Maybe then, you will understand where Obama is going, and stop calling concerned citizens all kinds of nasty names. That is, unless you are on board with his agenda)

Alinsky writes: "The Prince was written by Machiavelli for the Haves on how to hold power. Rules for Radicals is written for the Have-Nots on how to take it away. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people."

To bring about such revolution he says it's important to work inside the system not only among the middle class, but especially among the low income, blue collar workers.

Rules for Radicals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

YouTube - Mark Levin - Oct 14th - Alinsky's Rules for Radicals (Part 1 of 3)
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:22 AM
 
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I see many journalists are joining FOX. I hope more will come over. Then we will have Obama news & FOX news.
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Old 10-22-2009, 05:20 AM
 
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I see many journalists are joining FOX. I hope more will come over. Then we will have Obama news & FOX news.
That would make life so much simpler for everyone, including Obama.
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