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Sorry, but the miltary doesn't let the individual soldier decide which wars he will and which wars he won't fight in.
( and rightly so )
Which is exactly why we have disgruntled soldiers going postal when they identify with the enemy.
My post was not about the prevailing attitude. It was my opinion of what it should be. I wish you had understood that. If a soldier cannot in good conscience fight against the designated enemy, why do you want to force him into the front lines, rather than letting him opt out? What do you think would happen if the President called a war, and nobody came?
It';s always interesting when you post "I think people ought to be allowed to XYZ" and somebody replies "But that's against the law".
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Originally Posted by Greatday
When you are in the military - you know / should know to say one thing: "Yes Sir"
Start loading those Jews into the boxcars, soldier!
Which is exactly why we have disgruntled soldiers going postal when they identify with the enemy.
My post was not about the prevailing attitude. It was my opinion of what it should be. I wish you had understood that. If a soldier cannot in good conscience fight against the designated enemy, why do you want to force him into the front lines, rather than letting him opt out?
It';s always interesting when you post "I think people ought to be allowed to XYZ" and somebody replies "But that's against the law".
Start loading those Jews into the boxcars, soldier!
----"If a soldier cannot in good conscience cannot fight against the designated enemy "-------he should not have enlisted in a volunteer Army.
We no longer have a draft to make your statement closer to accurate.
----"If a soldier cannot in good conscience cannot fight against the designated enemy "-------he should not have enlisted in a volunteer Army.
We no longer have a draft to make your statement closer to accurate.
Major Hasan enlisted as a volunteer in the US Army in 1988, which was before the Muslims in general or the Iraqis in particular were designated as the enemy. When he enlisted, we were still in a cold war against the USSR, and Iraqi forces had not yet invaded Kuwait. If he could have predicted events in the Muslim world that accurately, he would have been a chief adviser in the Pentagon at the age of 18.
Major Hasan enlisted as a volunteer in the US Army in 1988, which was before the Muslims in general or the Iraqis in particular were designated as the enemy. When he enlisted, we were still in a cold war against the USSR, and Iraqi forces had not yet invaded Kuwait. If he could have predicted events in the Muslim world that accurately, he would have been a chief adviser in the Pentagon at the age of 18.
That totally misses the point. The point you quoted basicaly said - if you are unable to fight/kill due to belief then you should not be enlisting in an organization that is inherently designed to do that.
The point of Iraqi forces means nothing in your arguement since this is about belief not what war is or is not going on at the time.
As a favor to the rest please address the topic and add your point instead of a direct steer, thank you
Major Hasan enlisted as a volunteer in the US Army in 1988, which was before the Muslims in general or the Iraqis in particular were designated as the enemy. When he enlisted, we were still in a cold war against the USSR, and Iraqi forces had not yet invaded Kuwait. If he could have predicted events in the Muslim world that accurately, he would have been a chief adviser in the Pentagon at the age of 18.
He should have retired if he felt like he was unable to fulfill his duties.
how ... I can't even say.. that statement grinds me to no end. it's so.... yuppy, polotically correct, lame, typical american,..... I'm not sure. I just know BZZZZ WRONG ANSWER!
I knew dumb reactionary threads like this would emerge after the Ft. Hood shootings. This is just another low IQ moment by individuals who choose not to think. What the radical right is deliberately ignoring is that there were several red flags regarding this individual before the shootings occurred. The military just didn't do anything about it. This wasn't a normal individual, Muslim or no Muslim, that just went nuts one day. He had several complaints filed against him by his own colleagues. He had a poor evaluation. He was transferred because of the poor job he did at Walter Reed. He had a reputation of preaching Islam in unrelated powepoints and trying to convert people. I'm sorry but 99% of Muslims in the military have not had the types of red flags he has had. Therefore to indict all Muslims and to say they shouldn't serve in the military is assinine.
There are over 3500 Muslim soldiers in the military who are serving. There are Muslims who have died in combat serving the United States. But of course, let's forget the memory of those individuals and judge all Muslims based on this shooter. Seriously, the stupidity on this forum never ceases to amaze me.
Major Hasan enlisted as a volunteer in the US Army in 1988, which was before the Muslims in general or the Iraqis in particular were designated as the enemy. When he enlisted, we were still in a cold war against the USSR, and Iraqi forces had not yet invaded Kuwait. If he could have predicted events in the Muslim world that accurately, he would have been a chief adviser in the Pentagon at the age of 18.
Oh I don't know about that. We'd already had a few anti-American incidents carred out by Muslims by then, and in 1985's Back to The Future, "the Libyans" are the bad guys stealing the plutonium from Emmett Brown. And the World Trade Center was already receiving threats from Middle Eastern fundamentalist radicals. But I guess you are right, we still had the USSR and they were bigger and trumped all other Bad Guys.
Wonder who our Bad Guys will be in 20 years?
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