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Old 04-12-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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You might as well have a Nobel Prize in Math I couldn't care less. Read what socialism is and then we'll talk.
Looks like you are who needs to do reading. Here, read this
In Norway, Start-ups Say Ja to Socialism

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I don't fear socialism or communism, it is authoritarianism of all stripes that we need to worry about. We aren't heading towards socialism but a combination of socialism and fascism, basically total authoritarian control.

Sure, the left will be placated with the government taking care of everything, the right will be placated with the social controls that will inevitably be needed in order to keep costs down for health and other costs.



I understand the differences fully, as I said above, I don't worry about socialism or communism, we will never have a pure form of authoritarian government but a hodgepodge of both sides.

I am a free thinker. Had you looked at the PROGRESS.ORG link I provided, you would see just how off you are. I see it helps you to square things in your mind to try and categorize and classify me, that is fine, I understand.

I think you missed a couple of questions I asked.

"So you will institute more laws against victimless crimes?"
I think when you don't pay your taxes, everyone is a victim, end of story on that. There are already laws on the books for those who don't pay taxes.

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Exactly, it means you know how to parrot back what the elite want to hear.
I don't answer to any elite, if that is what you are implying. Do I look like a repub?
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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Just read this. We can still create our own destiny, and an American myth is that Socialism is BAD! It is really good actually. Read this about freedom and business.

In Norway, Start-ups Say Ja to Socialism
With all of your education you can't see how what your utopia Norway does won't work here?
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:15 PM
 
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With all of your education you can't see how what your utopia Norway does won't work here?
Why can't it? Please, explain.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:16 PM
 
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Looks like you are who needs to do reading. Here, read this
In Norway, Start-ups Say Ja to Socialism
I wasn't talking about the economic system of Norway I was talking about socialism.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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Why can't it? Please, explain.
Because the US is not Norway.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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Why can't it? Please, explain.
First, answer this. How can we take care of EVERYONE when over half of the US population doesn't pay ANY taxes at all? That right there is the main reason.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:24 PM
 
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I wasn't talking about the economic system of Norway I was talking about socialism.
It is all relative, there.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:26 PM
 
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Because the US is not Norway.
That doesn't explain why we can't be more like Norway if we tried.

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First, answer this. How can we take care of EVERYONE when over half of the US population doesn't pay ANY taxes at all? That right there is the main reason.
That is not really a good argument. Laws can be changed. People would have more money to pay if there were more jobs. Go on, please.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: South Jordan, Utah
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I think when you don't pay your taxes, everyone is a victim, end of story on that. There are already laws on the books for those who don't pay taxes.
Did I mention taxes? No.

What if I want to sell Oranges on the street?

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I don't answer to any elite, if that is what you are implying. Do I look like a repub?
Who gave you the grades needed to get your degree? You bowed down the the educational elite, told them what they wanted to hear and received the reward.

In a way yes, you look just like a Repub, you want to hire the elite to use force to achieve your political and social goals.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:27 PM
 
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That doesn't explain why we can't be more like Norway if we tried.


That is not really a good argument. Laws can be changed. People would have more money to pay if there were more jobs. Go on, please.
Where are the jobs going to come from? You can't just make jobs appear out of thin air. I know where you are going with this, but you are wrong. Government doesn't create jobs, they kill them.
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