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Old 12-03-2009, 09:59 PM
 
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The nice thing about being older is I don't have to care what I say anymore.

Many young black males are worthless. They're unemployable for a variety of reasons.

Strike one.

Lack of education is one. In to many black communities getting an education is frowned upon because that is acting to white.

Strike two.

Liberalism has destroyed the black family to an extent the KKK could not have dreamed of. Prior to the great society most black families were poor but the family unit was still intact. Today that has all changed thanks to liberalism.

Black boys do not know their fathers. Mama could get a free apartment, free food and money every month but only if the father did not live in the home. What better way to destroy a generation the Grand Wizard asks?

Raising males is hard enough for a middle class two parent family and I can't imagine the hardship it would pose for a single black female living in dumpy housing living on welfare and foodstamps.

Strike three.

Role models. Snoop Dog as a role model? Are you kidding me? Snoop don't go to no school and snoop doesn't get out of bed until early afternoon we've seen that on snoops great music videos.

By why go to school when you can be like Michael Jordan making millions playing bakketball?

Today it isn't a lost generation it's a lost race.

Amazing things liberalism does.
can't disagree with the liberalism part. liberalism destroys societies, it causes nothing but social and moral decay.
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Old 12-03-2009, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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can't disagree with the liberalism part. liberalism destroys societies, it causes nothing but social and moral decay.
Once you give something away for free it no longer has value.

If food is free it no longer valuable. If housing or education is free it no longer has value.

Then you hear the claptrap about substandard education blah, blah. Google the Kansas City School Experiment where a federal judge practically bankrupted the state of Missouri mandating huge sums of money be spent on Kansas City schools. It was, staggering amounts of money making it the most expensive school district in the country.

Scores never went up, not one bit.
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Transition Island
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[quote=enemy country;11866890]wwhhattt!!!! that has nothing to do with this post. choose who you want. Im keeping it real.IF YOUR MAN IS BETTER AT MADDEN THAN AT HANDLING PAPER WORK AND YARD WORK THIS IS YOU[/QUOTE}

The poster mentioned black females choosing black males who were unemployed and had no education and yes I mentioned that white women choose them as well. I responded to a statement made, so did you happen to miss that statement, since you felt the need to state that my response was null and void for this thread.
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:48 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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wwhhattt!!!! that has nothing to do with this post. choose who you want. Im keeping it real.IF YOUR MAN IS BETTER AT MADDEN THAN AT HANDLING PAPER WORK AND YARD WORK THIS IS YOU[/QUOTE}

The poster mentioned black females choosing black males who were unemployed and had no education and yes I mentioned that white women choose them as well. I responded to a statement made, so did you happen to miss that statement, since you felt the need to state that my response was null and void for this thread.
OK white women choose them also You happy now. So do Hispanics and other races. These type of guys are also present in other races. The thread was about high unemployment of black males. Dont you think it is better for us to point out the segment of our community where most of that problem comes from. Im in the know about these things. I have street creds(or at least I use to) my point is I see women, black and white OK, that choose mates that destroy thier lives and thier childrens lives. These ladies knew ahead of time that this guy was just waiting on a rap contract or to move up in the game and they chose to be with them giving credit to that sort of behavior. I know guys, if women say thats dumb or tacky the fashion or behavior goes away. Its just wishful thinking on my part that the thug culture that has wrecked a good part of our community would go away by what ever means is fine with me
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:04 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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Originally Posted by nicet4 View Post
The nice thing about being older is I don't have to care what I say anymore.

Many young black males are worthless. They're unemployable for a variety of reasons.

Strike one.

Lack of education is one. In to many black communities getting an education is frowned upon because that is acting to white.

Strike two.

Liberalism has destroyed the black family to an extent the KKK could not have dreamed of. Prior to the great society most black families were poor but the family unit was still intact. Today that has all changed thanks to liberalism.

Black boys do not know their fathers. Mama could get a free apartment, free food and money every month but only if the father did not live in the home. What better way to destroy a generation the Grand Wizard asks?

Raising males is hard enough for a middle class two parent family and I can't imagine the hardship it would pose for a single black female living in dumpy housing living on welfare and foodstamps.

Strike three.

Role models. Snoop Dog as a role model? Are you kidding me? Snoop don't go to no school and snoop doesn't get out of bed until early afternoon we've seen that on snoops great music videos.

By why go to school when you can be like Michael Jordan making millions playing bakketball?

Today it isn't a lost generation it's a lost race.

Amazing things liberalism does.
Welfare and public housing is broken and needs to be destroyed. Im a democrat and this sytem I have seen first hand destroy the mentallity of blacks. It is better to be poor and working with both parents in the house than to be on welfare. It and public housing needs to go
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Old 12-04-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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why is every thread on here racially motivated???? must be alot of racists hanging on here for some reason
So now its racist to <gasp!> discuss the situation in earnest?
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:46 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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why is every thread on here racially motivated???? must be alot of racists hanging on here for some reason
It only seems that way, and that only comes from the perspective of the person who has experienced discrimnation. Lets put it this way if this forum was comprised of mostly millionaires the post would be alot different in scope. These forums are comprised mainly of normal everyday people many of them have had experienced racism in some form or another and only relay what they have been through on thier post
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:47 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Welfare and public housing is broken and needs to be destroyed. Im a democrat and this sytem I have seen first hand destroy the mentallity of blacks. It is better to be poor and working with both parents in the house than to be on welfare. It and public housing needs to go
I would not cosign to that entirely, however I do agreed that some sort of housing assistance should still exist, just in another form
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Old 12-04-2009, 09:50 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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OK white women choose them also You happy now. So do Hispanics and other races. These type of guys are also present in other races. The thread was about high unemployment of black males. Dont you think it is better for us to point out the segment of our community where most of that problem comes from. Im in the know about these things. I have street creds(or at least I use to) my point is I see women, black and white OK, that choose mates that destroy thier lives and thier childrens lives. These ladies knew ahead of time that this guy was just waiting on a rap contract or to move up in the game and they chose to be with them giving credit to that sort of behavior. I know guys, if women say thats dumb or tacky the fashion or behavior goes away. Its just wishful thinking on my part that the thug culture that has wrecked a good part of our community would go away by what ever means is fine with me
But in part is'nt that the nature of many women to change men and to make them suitable to them. Obviously this does not always work
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Washington
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Minority groups want audacity from Obama on job creation

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In the 13 months since his election, President Obama has generally enjoyed support among black Americans. A sturdy historical pride in the president continues, and no doubt some envy at his circumstance: at least he's one black American with a guaranteed job for the next three years.
If only their own employment prospects were as rosy.
The unemployment rate for blacks has climbed to 15.7 percent. That compares with 13.1 percent for Hispanics and 9.5 percent for whites, according to a Nov. 6 report from the Labor Department. Black unemployment was 8.9 percent when the recession started in December 2007. In November 2008, the black unemployment rate was 11.3 percent for women, 12.2 percent for black men.
It's a national issue -- maybe the national issue -- and Obama addressed it in characteristic head-on style in the Rose Garden on Nov. 6:
"When we first came into office our immediate goal was to stop the freefall that caused our economy to shrink at an alarming rate. We have succeeded in achieving that goal, as our economy grew last quarter for the first time in a year. But history tells us that job growth always lags behind economic growth, which is why we have to continue to pursue measures that will create new jobs. And I can promise you that I won't let up until the Americans who want to find work can find work and until all Americans can earn enough to raise their families and keep their businesses open."
President Obama still enjoys the goodwill of African-Americans, despite their enduring another year of living marginally. A CBS News/New York Times poll preceding President Obama's 100th day in office found 96 percent of blacks supported him. Other more recent polls from CNN/Essence Magazine and Gallup have also found strong support. But black employment is an ever-lagging indicator of the state of the American economy, and patience is not an inexhaustible commodity.
A joint statement released on Nov. 17 from several leading nonprofit advocacy organizations says it plainly: health care reform is important, but in many more immediate ways, job creation is, or should be, top of mind for the Obama administration.
The six organizations -- the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the A.F.L.-C.I.O., the Center for Community Change, the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights, the Economic Policy Institute and the National Council of La Raza -- called on Obama to step up efforts at job creation, and said the president's recent $787 billion stimulus program wasn't enough to fight unemployment.
The groups called for more government spending for infrastructure and schools, billions to state and local governments to curb the predicted layoffs, and a government jobs program, "especially in distressed communities facing severe unemployment."
"[T]he country's jobs crisis could cause severe and lasting damage to generations of Americans - particularly people of color and children," said the report, on the institute's Website.
"This Great Recession is an unfolding social catastrophe," observed Deepak Bhargava, Center for Community Change executive director.
Wade Henderson, the Leadership Conference president, put it in terms dire enough to be a warning, but galvanizing enough to be a call to action.
"Make no mistake," he said. "This is the civil rights issue of our time."
It's no doubt with this in mind that the president convenes the Jobs Summit in Washington today.
Team Obama's already moved one mountain, a bit. The president's recent health care victory in the House was an important one, a first step to resolving a seemingly intractable national problem.
But while Obama has been rightly focused on health care reform, it bears mentioning that without jobs, Americans would miss most of the benefits of any health care reform bill. Since some degree of employer-mandated coverage is a feature of all the health care reform bills being considered by Congress, having a job will be foundational to getting health insurance in the first place.
And the absence of jobs may be made worse by Obama's reluctance to take a more aggressive, personalized approach in pursuit of more public-works projects -- the same kind of projects the organizations call for.
Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger of California and Democratic Gov. Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania sent Obama a memo in March calling for more political leadership instead of waiting for Congress to create a plan to improve the national infrastructure, the Los Angeles Times reported in April.
Rendell expressed concerns that Congress would lard any future plan to improve ailing U.S. highways, bridges and ports with "earmarks" and other pork-barrel priorities.
"It is very important that the administration be proactive rather than left reacting to congressional proposals," said a draft of the memo, obtained by The Times.
"Despite an effective and bold recovery package, we are still facing a prolonged period of high unemployment," the advocacy groups' statement said. "Two years from now, absent further action, we are likely to have unemployment at 8 percent or more, a higher rate than attained even at the worst point of the last two downturns."
That jibes with what may be the groups' most sobering finding: They anticipate that one-third of the work force -- and 40 percent of minority workers -- will be unemployed or underemployed at some point over the next year.
Supporters in those six organizations, all of whom went to the mat for Obama little more than a year ago, are concluding there's a lack of boldness -- a lack of audacity -- that's baffling. Maybe even disturbing.
There's no escaping the brutal hand the president was dealt by the previous administration: two wars, a housing crisis and an economy already in free fall the day he was sworn in.
It's apparent that this president faces more than one Job #1. But of all the other tasks he faces, job creation may be the first among equals. For millions of African-Americans, this year, like last year, it is.
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