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Old 12-05-2009, 05:36 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"The head of a United Nations panel said it will investigate claims that scientists manipulated data about global warming, days before climate-change talks in Copenhagen. Rajendra Pachauri, head of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, told the BBC the allegations were serious. "We certainly don't want to brush anything under the carpet," he said."

U.N. Panel to Probe Claims on Manipulating Climate Data - WSJ.com

Meanwhile, back at the ranch (aka Congress):

Representative James "Sensenbrenner characterized the UEA data set as 'the basis for virtually all peer-reviewed literature' and asserted that 'the documents show systematic suppression of dissenting opinion among scientists in the climate change community, intimidation of journal editors and a journal who would deign to publish articles questioning the so called consensus, manipulation of data and models, possible criminal activity to evade legitimate requests for data and the underlying computer codes filed under Freedom of Information Acts, both in the U.S. and in the United Kingdom.'"

[John] Holdren (Obama's Science Czar) disputed Sensenbrenner's assertions and downplayed the controversy but also covered his butt (just in case) by adding "I'm not aware of any cabals, conspiracies, misbehavior in the characterization and use of data in NASA or NOAA."

White House Pushes Back on Climate Change Email Controversy - Political Punch

Actually, you would think Holdren would want to look into it because if there is some consensual skeezy agreement to hide and destroy data and suppress dissenting opinion throughout the world science community, including in the US, then it obviously did not start in the Obama administration. Obama could come out a hero and smelling like a rose if he investigated the US science community and actually found something that would save the country a lot of money. Even if he didn't find anything wrong, the act of actually opening an independent investigation on it would do wonders for him PR wise. It would show he really cares about spending responsibly and he has the boldness to get to the bottom of it.

"Usually academic research is completely ignored by the general public but in this case proposed regulations, costing trillions of dollars, are being based on many of these claimed research results. This coordinated campaign to hide scientific information appears unprecedented."

FOXNews.com - Why You Should Be Hot and Bothered About 'Climate-gate'

Sensennbrenner definitely has this part right:

"We 'are being asked as a Congress to make major changes in American society in energy use and on how much the out of pocket cost is to every person in this country as a result of this debate. And we in Congress better get it right. The scientists may be able to change their story and do more research on it, but, once Congress passes a law, it will be as difficult to repeal the consequences of that law as putting milk back into the cow.'"

White House Pushes Back on Climate Change Email Controversy - Political Punch
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:52 AM
 
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Global warming has certainly produced a lot of hot air from the right-wing. So-called Climate-Gate seems very little different from Van Jones, or ACORN, or Death Panels, or WMD. It looks an awful lot like just another case of a flash-mob having been created at what they took to be an opportune time by the right-wing puppetmasters whose job it is to stampede the herd. Science is science, and claptrap is claptrap. There isn't much doubt over which of those the right-wing relies upon more often, and none at all over which will prevail in the long run.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Global warming has certainly produced a lot of hot air from the right-wing. So-called Climate-Gate seems very little different from Van Jones, or ACORN, or Death Panels, or WMD. It looks an awful lot like just another case of a flash-mob having been created at what they took to be an opportune time by the right-wing puppetmasters whose job it is to stampede the herd. Science is science, and claptrap is claptrap. There isn't much doubt over which of those the right-wing relies upon more often, and none at all over which will prevail in the long run.
So you have no intelligent answer to the OP I guess?

Why is it that people can't just address the obvious that some people that were leaders in the GW, CC movement got caught red handed? It is just human nature when people have an opportunity to make $$$, gain fame and fortune, control the direction of the world they succumb to the worst in them and just palin screw up like these gentleman did. I know it is hard for some in the herd mentailty to admit but they have been had, plain and simple.
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Old 12-05-2009, 06:50 AM
 
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Global warming has certainly produced a lot of hot air from the right-wing. So-called Climate-Gate seems very little different from Van Jones, or ACORN, or Death Panels, or WMD. It looks an awful lot like just another case of a flash-mob having been created at what they took to be an opportune time by the right-wing puppetmasters whose job it is to stampede the herd. Science is science, and claptrap is claptrap. There isn't much doubt over which of those the right-wing relies upon more often, and none at all over which will prevail in the long run.

And both turned out to be true!!

ACORN is corrupt and Van Jones is a communist!! Self professed, I may add.


I find it strange that this President who always praises the UN, will not listen to the UN on this issue!! Isn't the UN a credible organization??

If there's nothing to hide, check out the findings!

This is not going away!!
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