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Old 12-08-2009, 06:00 AM
 
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And what did you just say in your rant? Your rant was like a man who curses the light. Here in this thread I have given several opportunites for people to share that the op was wrong, but not one liberal has had the ability to deny the facts. I encourage you to put your talents to better use. Study the failures of socialism following the empty promises, then report back to this forum.
You haven't presented any facts, just rantings and inane comparisons. The only fact you have presented has been incorrect. Your posts and insults aren't really deserving of serious responses, thats why you don't get any.
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Old 12-08-2009, 01:40 PM
 
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Key word, "Socialist" Yes, I am capable of making a mistake, but in this case it was a minor mistake which didn't affect the argument.
Lack of high school level knowledge in recent history severely degrades any argument.

You missed a couple of "key words".

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Old 12-08-2009, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Hey Sarge, you are just gonna confuse the kid with facts. He already has his preconceived (and ill-conceived) notions. You are trying to teach Opera to a goat.
Even more confusing--the acronym should be CCCP.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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You haven't presented any facts, just rantings and inane comparisons. The only fact you have presented has been incorrect. Your posts and insults aren't really deserving of serious responses, thats why you don't get any.
Insults... I haven't insulted anyone. Funny how you sound just like a Democrat Senator on Steroids. Even that's not an insult, just an observation.

By the way, thank you for taking time to read enough of them to make a totally complete judgement.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:28 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Even more confusing--the acronym should be CCCP.
The first valid point you have made in this thread! Excellent.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:38 PM
 
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The first valid point you have made in this thread! Excellent.
I guess misnaming the USSR acronym is not a valid point . . .

CCCP is the equivalent in the Russian language.

Soviet Union - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Damn, I didn't have this much trouble when my kids were in high school.

Now class, can you name the countries associated with these acronyms:

UK

DDR

USA

No recess 'til you get all three correct.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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In 1917, the Bolshevik Revolution brought about a cure to a bad, cruel, and out-of-tune totalatarian government. Seventy years later, the replacement government failed. Why?

It was for many reasons, but to name a few, 1) there was no competition to develop businesses. 2) the central government couldn't react to the various needs of the many regions of then largest land sized nation. 3) the central government had farm managers who had never gotten their fingernails filled with fertile dirt. 4) Religion was outlawed. 5-xxx) you can add.

If America keeps adopting the ideals of the Bolschevik's, not will, but can our nation survive?
Just to remind you, yes the statements are opinion, but the facts and historical data do back up each of the points.

To expound: I grew up on and managed farms in America so my views will be toward the agricultural points of view. Point 1) Ever driven or operated a USSR built tractor or used other ag equipment? No, because the equipment was horrible. There was no competition in USSR to force a better product. When they tried to sell it in America, the farmers said no! To be fair, the Deutz (W German) line of tractors, and the David Brown (UK) weren't much better, but they both made inroads in certain parts of the US. # 2) In the US building codes that work in Florida, aren't good in Alaska or Maine. In our government, when Congress tries to push an Florida commode into Alaska... Same was happening in USSR. The tools and guidelines which worked in Georgia or the Ukraine, didn't work in Moscow, or Siberia. # 3) Number crunchers in Moscow did the planning for the cooperative farms, but they had no clue about growing wheat. Therefore, the US supplied most of the USSR's food from 1972 until mid-1990's. 4) Religion was outlawed. With religion comes discipline, without discipline societies fail. Once the USSR desolved, churches came back strong and today, modern Russia has a chance of becoming a power again. I can't absolutely say it was because religion returned, but neither can anyone else deny that it's abolishment didn't create the ultimate failure.
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Old 12-08-2009, 02:51 PM
 
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Just to remind you, yes the statements are opinion, but the facts and historical data do back up each of the points.

To expound: I grew up on and managed farms in America so my views will be toward the agricultural points of view. Point 1) Ever driven or operated a USSR built tractor or used other ag equipment? No, because the equipment was horrible. There was no competition in USSR to force a better product. When they tried to sell it in America, the farmers said no! To be fair, the Deutz (W German) line of tractors, and the David Brown (UK) weren't much better, but they both made inroads in certain parts of the US. # 2) In the US building codes that work in Florida, aren't good in Alaska or Maine. In our government, when Congress tries to push an Florida commode into Alaska... Same was happening in USSR. The tools and guidelines which worked in Georgia or the Ukraine, didn't work in Moscow, or Siberia. # 3) Number crunchers in Moscow did the planning for the cooperative farms, but they had no clue about growing wheat. Therefore, the US supplied most of the USSR's food from 1972 until mid-1990's. 4) Religion was outlawed. With religion comes discipline, without discipline societies fail. Once the USSR desolved, churches came back strong and today, modern Russia has a chance of becoming a power again. I can't absolutely say it was because religion returned, but neither can anyone else deny that it's abolishment didn't create the ultimate failure.
Only you know what you're talking about here. I'm sure there's a point here somewhere but I'd wager only you see it.
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Old 12-08-2009, 03:22 PM
 
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Insults... I haven't insulted anyone. Funny how you sound just like a Democrat Senator on Steroids. Even that's not an insult, just an observation.

By the way, thank you for taking time to read enough of them to make a totally complete judgement.
Like I said, read your own posts and then you'll figure out why no one bothers to write a serious response to your points. Useless and meaningless platitudes aren't worthy of serious response.

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Old 12-08-2009, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Louisville KY Metro area
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Like I said, read your own posts and then you'll figure out why no one bothers to write a serious response to your points. Useless and meaningless platitudes aren't worthy of serious response.
You are right, you shouldn't bother. Thank you for being observant about that issue.
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