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According to the article, once you get past the attitude, there is a proper nativity scene at City Hall plus other Santa/Rudolph/Christmas tree/garlands and lights that are not part of the nativity. There is no indication that Santa or elves are IN the nativity or even close to it. The photo in the article is unrelated to Denver city hall.
It's CHRISTmas !!!! No Christ, no Christmas. I'll keep Christmas and if you don't want to see my scene of Christ's birth, which IS part of the belief of the Found Fathers of this Nation, tough. There is no where in the Constitution of seperation of Church and State, but rather that the State must recognize there is A God and that's why we are here. This WAS based on the Founding Father's Christian beliefs. So with that in mind, I have the right to display it and you have the right not to look at it by looking somewhere else. And cities that do not display scenes in recognition of Christ birth are actuly in VIOLATION of the Constitution despite what off the wall courts might say.
And cities that do not display scenes in recognition of Christ birth are actuly in VIOLATION of the Constitution despite what off the wall courts might say.
Please explain further. How are cities that do not display scenes in recognition of Christ's birth violating the Constitution?
It's CHRISTmas !!!! No Christ, no Christmas. I'll keep Christmas and if you don't want to see my scene of Christ's birth, which IS part of the belief of the Found Fathers of this Nation, tough. There is no where in the Constitution of seperation of Church and State, but rather that the State must recognize there is A God and that's why we are here. This WAS based on the Founding Father's Christian beliefs. So with that in mind, I have the right to display it and you have the right not to look at it by looking somewhere else. And cities that do not display scenes in recognition of Christ birth are actuly in VIOLATION of the Constitution despite what off the wall courts might say.
Want a nativity scene, go to your church, go to your home.
No one cares what you do in your church or home.
Not one tax penny should be spent on anything religious.
It's CHRISTmas !!!! No Christ, no Christmas. I'll keep Christmas and if you don't want to see my scene of Christ's birth, which IS part of the belief of the Found Fathers of this Nation, tough. There is no where in the Constitution of seperation of Church and State, but rather that the State must recognize there is A God and that's why we are here. This WAS based on the Founding Father's Christian beliefs. So with that in mind, I have the right to display it and you have the right not to look at it by looking somewhere else. And cities that do not display scenes in recognition of Christ birth are actuly in VIOLATION of the Constitution despite what off the wall courts might say.
Wrong, wrong and dead wrong. But hey, don't let the facts get in your way.
It's CHRISTmas !!!! No Christ, no Christmas. I'll keep Christmas and if you don't want to see my scene of Christ's birth, which IS part of the belief of the Found Fathers of this Nation, tough. There is no where in the Constitution of seperation of Church and State, but rather that the State must recognize there is A God and that's why we are here. This WAS based on the Founding Father's Christian beliefs. So with that in mind, I have the right to display it and you have the right not to look at it by looking somewhere else. And cities that do not display scenes in recognition of Christ birth are actuly in VIOLATION of the Constitution despite what off the wall courts might say.
Now switching from the South Park references to set this straight...
Quote:
Originally Posted by The First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...
Moreover...
The Founding Fathers had quite varied religious beliefs, and many of them were Deists which is to say they believed in God but not necessarily in the divinity of Jesus. Thomas Jefferson definitely did not believe in Jesus' divinity and was therefore not a Christian in the manner that most Christians would reckon. Same for Benjamin Franklin. To say that these people were all united under one faith is revisionist history at its best and an outright lie at its worst.
This fallacy bothers me than a nativity scene or anything like that. A nativity display isn't going to be used as a battering ram to actually force religion upon anyone. Ultimately it doesn't matter. It's just a symbol. Using this "Founding Fathers were Christians therefore we should have Christianity in government" argument to actually further an agenda to push laws based on religious beliefs that not everyone in this country holds is another story entirely.
It's CHRISTmas !!!! No Christ, no Christmas. I'll keep Christmas and if you don't want to see my scene of Christ's birth, which IS part of the belief of the Found Fathers of this Nation, tough. There is no where in the Constitution of seperation of Church and State, but rather that the State must recognize there is A God and that's why we are here. This WAS based on the Founding Father's Christian beliefs. So with that in mind, I have the right to display it and you have the right not to look at it by looking somewhere else. And cities that do not display scenes in recognition of Christ birth are actuly in VIOLATION of the Constitution despite what off the wall courts might say.
Now switching from the South Park references to set this straight...
Quote:
Originally Posted by The First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...
There it is, the first sentence in the First Amendment. To say it's not in the Constitution is like saying that nowhere in the Ten Commandments is an order from God to not worship any other gods before him.
Moreover...
The Founding Fathers had quite varied religious beliefs, and many of them were Deists which is to say they believed in God but not necessarily in the divinity of Jesus. Thomas Jefferson definitely did not believe in Jesus' divinity and was therefore not a Christian in the manner that most Christians would reckon. Same for Benjamin Franklin. To say that these people were all united under one faith is revisionist history at its best and an outright lie at its worst.
This fallacy bothers me than a nativity scene or anything like that. A nativity display isn't going to be used as a battering ram to actually force religion upon anyone. Ultimately it doesn't matter. It's just a symbol. Using this "Founding Fathers were Christians therefore we should have Christianity in government" argument to actually further an agenda to push laws based on religious beliefs that not everyone in this country holds is another story entirely.
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