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Old 05-20-2007, 05:09 AM
 
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Carter may be a wonderful man, but alot of people help with habitat for humanity. As President he was and will be depicted by history as one of our worst choices for a leader.
That was indeed Carter's singular failure...the inability to carry out the role if Inspirer in Chief. He was a man of high morals, with great humanity and technical capability, but he was humble and plain-spoken, not well suited to the role of Hollywood Cowboy that his successor would play so successfully.

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Double digit inflation and unemployment.
The mess of stagflation was inherited from the Nixon-Ford years. Nixon tried federal wage-price controls. Ford thought we should all just wear WIN buttons (for Whip Inflation Now). Carter's economic performance was admirable by comparison until the US was struck by the Arab Oil Embargo of 1979, which almost overnight doubled the share of US GDP devoted to petroleum purchases. In his first three years in office, Carter saw real GDP grow by 4.6, 5.6, and 3.2 percent. By the Spring of 1979, unemployment, which had been 7.5 percent when he took office, had been cut to 5.6 percent, while the numbers of long-term unemployed (15 weeks or more) had been cut from 2.2 million to 1.1 million. Carter's record on inflation prior to the Oil Embargo was less noteworthy, though it remained below the levels that had characterized the later Nixon-Ford years. The Oil Embargo threw a monkey wrench into that, just as the 1973-74 Embargo had done to his predecessors.

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And he could not resolve the Iranian crisis.
In significant part, the Iranian crisis directly targeted President Carter for his having allowed the former Shah of Iran into this country to receive medical treatment. It was certainly prolonged by Iranian perceptions of being able to get a better deal (read arms-shipments) out of waiting for Reagan to win.

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I am not sure he had a foreign policy?
You've forgotten the SALT-2 Treaty, the Panama Canal Treaty, and the Camp David Accords? The incumbent President has nothing on his resume that can compare with any one of those. And there was for the first time under Carter the imposition of human rights qualifications into foreign aid and assistance policies. President Bush's record on human rights is deplorable.

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I doubt the sitting President will lose any sleep over Jimmy Carters opinions.
Personally, I don't see how Mr. Bush can sleep at night to start out with. Mr. Carter's pointed criticisms are meanwhile just another log on an already blazing fire of not just dissatisfaction, but utter contempt for the failed and perverted policies of this administration. That contempt is likely to grow only stronger as long overdue oversight continues to reveal additional layers of deceit and disgrace from the Oval Office on down...
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Old 05-20-2007, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Tucson, AZ
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Carter may be a wonderful man, but alot of people help with habitat for humanity. As President he was and will be depicted by history as one of our worst choices for a leader. Double digit inflation and unemployment. And he could not resolve the Iranian crisis. I am not sure he had a foreign policy?

It is better to make the wrong decision than no decision at all. This represents Carter's whole term and led to one of the greatest margins of defeat by a sitting President. Carters an old man who could not lead in '76 and he still does not have a clue. I doubt the sitting President will lose any sleep over Jimmy Carters opinions.
What does any of this have to do with my point that Carter was just calling Bush out for the horrible president that he is?

But, of course Bush won't lose any sleep over Carter's opinions. He's a legend in his own mind, and that's more than good enough for him.
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Old 05-20-2007, 06:11 AM
 
Location: Fly-over country.
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Carter's legacy:
the dawn of islamic terror with no response from the US
the radical revolution in Iran with no help to the Shah
double-digit inflation
double-digit unemployment
welfare state
clueless foreign policy

And now he's lining up with the islamic terrorists in palestine and trying to sell a book that's full of lies (forcing much of his former staff to renounce him)

Mr. Carter's made his choice. He's a disgrace.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:06 PM
 
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And now he's lining up with the islamic terrorists in palestine and trying to sell a book that's full of lies (forcing much of his former staff to renounce him)
No it's called a dose of reality. Perhaps you like and support, Bush, the most arrogant incompetent president we have ever had, but calling someone a disgrace for stating that is weak.

The recent GOP debates demonstrate that the potential GOP Presidents are as competent as Bush.

However it's more troubling that the audience cheered the lines that demonstrated Republican ignorance on foreign policy. The dumbing down of issues to a point of this and that, distorting reality while it happens.

The attack on Paul's comments during the debate highlight this tragic attitude.
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Old 05-20-2007, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Hopewell New Jersey
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And now he's lining up with the islamic terrorists in palestine and trying to sell a book that's full of lies (forcing much of his former staff to renounce him)
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Not only renounce him...some, after being on his staff for a long long time have packed up their personal belongings and left theri cushy jobs saying they cannot participate further in a process which so distorts what really occoured. In his latest book he has yet again exposed himself as a self centered dillusional antisemit .

Good intentions ...at times perhaps... but you khow the saying about the road to He!!@
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Destined to be banned
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The Jimster, is just looking at his legacy and sees that his greatest accomplshment in his life will be building habitats, so he is trying to capitalize on the unrest of the lunatic fringe and insert himself back into the political scene!
Naaa, Bush IS the absolute worst president this country has ever had. A friggen under acheiving coke head and a dry drunk who never successfully completed a single thing he ever tried in life, except tricking the sheeple to vote for him a second time.
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Old 05-20-2007, 02:58 PM
 
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Ah, and so it continues. A dem bashing a republican. Carter, the gold standard in US presidents.




Sorry, but this is starting to look too much like wrestling watching the blathering of our 2 party do nothing politics.

I would prefer to tune into WWE, it is much more realistic, professional and respectable to watch than our political system as reported by our media system.
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Old 05-20-2007, 04:31 PM
 
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Default That's a joke, right?

Gvcop32,

You wrote: “It is better to make the wrong decision than no decision at all.”

I want to believe that you aren’t serious, or that you just didn’t want to take the time to clarify this with at least some qualifications.
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:37 PM
 
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Default Jimmy Who

I didnt think he could get anymore irrelevent!http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...ype=RSS&rpc=22
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Old 05-20-2007, 08:55 PM
 
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I didnt think he could get anymore irrelevent!
...as far as the adverse impact on the nation around the world, this administration has been the worst in history.
--- Jimmy Carter

So, I take it, then, that you are aware of an administration that has been worse than the Bush administration in terms of adverse impact on the nation around the world. Would you like to tell us which one it is?
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