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Here is the scenario.
My friend's girlfriend just asked him she wants to have his baby and she is willing to "not claim for child" even if they break up in the future. She is giving him "her word." He is really considering doing it. I advice him not to do it. I just think this could back fire on him once she realises what a having a baby really means (and costs). I adviced him to seek legal help and see if there is actually a legal contract that will remove the right of the mother to actually apply for child support.
What do you think?
This has going sideways written all over it. He needs legal advice because the state may come after him for child support regardless if she ever files for some sort of assistance. Someone may have already said this...I pre-apologize for not reading all the posts in advance.
Here is the scenario.
My friend's girlfriend just asked him she wants to have his baby and she is willing to "not claim for child" even if they break up in the future. She is giving him "her word." He is really considering doing it. I advice him not to do it. I just think this could back fire on him once she realises what a having a baby really means (and costs). I adviced him to seek legal help and see if there is actually a legal contract that will remove the right of the mother to actually apply for child support.
What do you think?
Tell him it is not a legal issue, but a moral one. He would be the baby's father, and that comes with responsibilities.
This is a little different situation than a similar one I had in mind, and might be enough to change the position. A woman was in the news because she agreed--under contract--to carry a child for a couple. But when the child was born, she "changed her mind".
Any time you deal with irrational people, there's a potential for conflict.
Child support is not for the mother, it is for the child. Given that, it wouldn't make sense to allow the mother to waive the child's right to support.
Basically what this poster said. It would be against public policy to allow such a verbal agreement to stand. Even if written, it would likely be thrown out if challenged later.
The easiest way to avoid financial liability for a child is not to have one.
Another update.
She researched how much it would cost to do this by invitro (not sure of the name) fertilization in a Monterrey Hospital (Mexico) and told my friend it would cost her about $2,500 for the procedure, plus $500 per fertilized egg and some extras for staying overnight. He agreed to pitch in with the money despite me telling him about some of the info I got from this thread! To top it off, this guy has a minimu wage paying job and actually asked his parents for some money to help her. I just feel sory for him. If it is going to cost him so much why not having it the good'ol normal way and just marry her.
I cant tell him directly he is crazy because he is "In LOVE" and you know how love is completely irrational. If I told him straight up what I think he would probably hate me and take his grilfriends side. All I can do is listen and see him make a mistake. The most saddening thing is that a couple of months ago he told me that she was not "marriage material." WTF is he thinking. He is just SURE a legal contract will just get him off the hook if he decides to dump her later. Sad but true.
150+ year old laws are so relevant today.
And what happened to the woman and child?
Usually poverty, then and now.
Though the citations are from old court cases, they had standing up till 1935 - the start of national socialism.
The point is that no one should be compelled to labor for the benefit of another - that is slavery. Calling it socialism doesn't change the nature of the beast. And having the government do the stealing doesn't make it moral or just.
Of course, 'compulsory' socialism is based on 'voluntary' participating in FICA / SocSec. You should know that there is NO LAW compelling Americans to participate and NO LAW punishing Americans that do not. It is 100% Voluntary - Voluntary Servitude.
Sadly, millions of Americans BELIEVE that such a law compels them to join up before they are "allowed" to work in their own country.
You have to ask yourself - if Socialism is so great, why do they need FRAUD to impose it?
Though the citations are from old court cases, they had standing up till 1935 - the start of national socialism.
The point is that no one should be compelled to labor for the benefit of another - that is slavery. Calling it socialism doesn't change the nature of the beast. And having the government do the stealing doesn't make it moral or just.
Of course, 'compulsory' socialism is based on 'voluntary' participating in FICA / SocSec. You should know that there is NO LAW compelling Americans to participate and NO LAW punishing Americans that do not. It is 100% Voluntary - Voluntary Servitude.
Sadly, millions of Americans BELIEVE that such a law compels them to join up before they are "allowed" to work in their own country.
You have to ask yourself - if Socialism is so great, why do they need FRAUD to impose it?
Standing until 75 years ago.
You want to go back to living in 1935, knock yourself out.
The rest of the world has moved on. You might want to as well.
Please, your friend needs strong guidance right now. He is so messed up, it's frightening. He is "in love" but says she is "not marriage material." I have news for him: any woman who is not marriage material is also not mother material. What is he thinking?? Has he NO moral integrity or sense of responsibility or sense of self respect, AT ALL?
I agree with the others that such a contract cannot be honored, because the child has the right to support and the mother, such as she is and using that word loosely, cannot waive the child's rights in order to trick or tempt the sperm donor into giving her what she needs.
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if i were that guy i would watch out, that girl might take some sperm out of a rubber, he used on her to impregnate herself. sounds like she realy wants a baby.
don't stick your pencil in company ink unless you are willing to sign a contract
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