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Old 12-26-2009, 06:22 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The only alternative is communism in its truest definition.
For a communist country China is sure enjoying the fruits of capitalism.
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Old 12-26-2009, 06:32 PM
 
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For a communist country China is sure enjoying the fruits of capitalism.
I just meant the abolition of money and the natural order of things. there has always been a food chain which means there has always been a top and bottom to that food chain.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:37 PM
 
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I think you have a point here. It may be 'human nature' to procreate to the point of unsustainability but anyone with a modicum of intellegence would realize that this is unsustainable are refrain from such activity.

It is these low intellegence, low productivity, low achievement segments of society that have birth rates far greater than that of the developed world. Even in developed societies those who can least afford any children have the highest birth rates.

The birth rates in many developed countries has actually declined and in some cases it has declined to the point that the population is shrinking. Compare this to the out of control birth rates in these third world countries and even in the low achievement segments of developed societies.

You are also correct that the solution will necessarily have to be the extinction of this lower end of the world's population. As you say, it's unsuystainable and, of course, will not be sustained. Hence these people will perish in the end in any event. That's my whole point. Mother Nature will win in the end.

- Reel
All your posts in this thread have been excellent.
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Old 12-27-2009, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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For a communist country China is sure enjoying the fruits of capitalism.
China hasn't been a truly communist country for quite some time, despite the fact that we still refer to it as such.
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Old 12-29-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Ok, let's forget about intelligence. Let's look at achievement. Also, let's eliminate poverty, malnutrition and quality of education from the equation. How do you explain the achievement gap between middle class Asians and middle class hispanics in the United States of America? How do you explain the achievement gap between middle class blacks and middle class whites in this country?

- Reel
Think your going to explain it to us, in terms hopefully we understand.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:05 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Hunger is one aspect of poverty as measured by the major international organizations (and governmental organizations) which engage in development work. Poverty is understood as the inability to achieve a standard of living conducive to meeting basic needs. Real poverty is a lack of access to enough food/nutrition to meet basic needs, lack of access to clean water, lack of access to basic healthcare services and lack of housing. Average income is usually used to measure this because it's a standardized means of comparing across countries and regions.


Ok this is sad, humilitating, terrible, what about the Americans who are in the same positions, as those abroard, who is going to help them, what Country will. We have so much homeless right here at home.You can see it on so many corners. What do you want us to do to fix it.
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Old 12-29-2009, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Ok this is sad, humilitating, terrible, what about the Americans who are in the same positions, as those abroard, who is going to help them, what Country will. We have so much homeless right here at home.You can see it on so many corners. What do you want us to do to fix it.
I do not mean to diminish compassion for those in America who are homeless, but I think it is important to acknowledge the fact that much of the homelessness in America is the result of serious mental insability, rather than poverty. Another very sad thing, and the result of our society's attitude of non-responsibility for those who incapable of caring properly for themselves. The end of institutional care for such individuals is largely responsible for much of this, combined with a health care system that is unavailable to so many and in particular to so many that have serious mental health issues.
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:09 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Measures of absolute poverty (those living on less than a Dollar-a-Day or Two-Dollars-a-Day) measure that poverty in GDP per Capita, PPP so all of that is already taken into account.
If an American requires $30/day to survive, and someone in a foreign land is living on less than $1/day, does he consume 1/30 the food, 1/30 the shelter, 1/30 the clothing, etc, of an American?
Shouldn't he be DEAD?
Doesn't that make you question the data and conclusions drawn from it?
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:22 AM
 
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my tax rate is showing anger. This is bullcrap, I am so tired of the US helping other countries. Please we give enough. We give more than any other nation in the world. How much more do we need to give and no less to goverments that just steal and rob from there own people. No accountability for their actions or where they spent the money. IM FED UP! Call it greed but I would rather help YOU or someone in this country than poor countries.
You do more damage than your taxes compensate. You buy cheap goods made in other countries. Yeah we should help our own, but we should stop meddling in other countries through the global economy.

Think about the problem in larger terms than just a line on your pay stub.
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Old 03-05-2010, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Gotta have compassion. It's what makes America the country it is.
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