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It was amusing to see Rush and his {R} base over the Brown victory and calling it a win for conservatives.Here is a excerpt from the gas bags radio show:
Now, the third party people. Yeah, this probably puts a damper on third party stuff because Scott Brown won big-time as a Republican. He did not win as a third-party candidate. He did not disavow being a Republican. He did not disavow being a conservative. And so to the extent that people want a third party, Scott Brown has got a little bit in the way. It will be interesting to see their reaction to it if there is one. A third party on our side would only guarantee Democrat victory. It's just a bad idea, especially upon reflection after this election on Tuesday of Scott Brown. We say take over the Republican Party. How do we do it? This is how you do it. You get candidates who can articulate conservatism, who understand what they're running against. Will Republicans Learn the Right Lessons from Tuesday's Election?
Well lets look at Brown's record and see if El Rushbo is right.
Had the Tea Party folks been concerned about his politics they would have had at the very least questioned his continued support and defense of socialized healthcare in Massachusetts, which has contributed towards bankrupting the commonwealth and lead to the highest rise in healthcare premiums as compared to any other state in the union. Even more disturbing, Massachusetts and Obama’s federal proposal, “Obamacare,” have identical mandates forcing private citizens to buy healthcare insurance.
Similarly, his claim that he’ll lower taxes and cut spending does not line up with his voting record. In a radio interview on November 3, 2008 on Boston’s WTTK he urged voters to strike down question one that would have ended Massachusetts’s 5% income tax. Also, according to the Centers For Small Government, in his eleven years in the Massachusetts state Senate he had not “authored, sponsored, or introduced” one bill which would have “cut as little as 5% of total state government spending
He has even departed from his support for a cap-and-trade. According to a the Boston Globe “In 2008, he [Brown] voted with the Legislature for Massachusetts to join the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative, a pact among Northeastern states requiring power plants to reduce emissions or to buy credits from cleaner industries.” The Globe continues by quoting Brown directly where he stated “Reducing carbon dioxide emission in Massachusetts has long been a priority of mine,’’and “Passing this legislation is an important step . . . towards improving our environment.
In summery,he was at Romney's side on HC and help implement the fine for not having insurance.He spoke out against a tax cut and has been in the cap and trade camp.And on top of that he thanked John McCain for talking him into running.
And of course he claims to be fiscally conservative but won't have any problem adding to the debt voting for defense and security for the whole world at the tune of 700 billion.He will be a good fit along with the big spending {R}s there won't be a war,occupation or increased defense spending that he won't like.
Notice how Rush states that this was a big defeat for a 3rd party,the reason he does this is to keep the duped fools voting for fake conservatives like Brown.Shame of it is there was a real conservative in the race but of course he was not part of the establishment and Rush of course gave him no support.
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Yes, there was a real conservative there by the name of Kennedy (no relation to the "D" Kennedy's), and it does not surprise me that Rush chose to support a socialist Republican instead of him.
Anyway, the SC ruling put the nail on the coffin of the 3rd parties. It's game over for them, and I wonder what Rush, Glenn Beck and Tea Party has to say about that.
Yes, there was a real conservative there by the name of Kennedy (no relation to the "D" Kennedy's), and it does not surprise me that Rush chose to support a socialist Republican instead of him.
Anyway, the SC ruling put the nail on the coffin of the 3rd parties. It's game over for them, and I wonder what Rush, Glenn Beck and Tea Party has to say about that.
It is a sad state of affairs when our country is so desperate that they think that typical {R}s like Brown are going to save the country.It is more sickening that the people are so easily fooled listening to Rush,Beck,etc claim Brown's victory was a win for conservatives.
Here is another story about the type of fake conservatism that the {R} Brown has displayed:
State Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA), the Republican candidate for the U.S. Senate special election on Tuesday, voted on Oct. 17, 2001 to deny financial aid to Red Cross rescue workers who had volunteered with 9/11 recovery efforts. As a state representative at the time, Brown was one out of only three legislators who had opposed the overwhelmingly bipartisan measure. As ThinkProgress reported on Saturday, at the same time Brown was voting against the 9/11 rescue workers bill, he sponsored House Bill 4423, a measure to provide a tax-subsidized bond to build a golf course in Newport, a town in his district. Brown, earlier this weekend, told ThinkProgress that he opposed the rescue worker money because of the state’s fiscal condition and because he had his own “priorities.” Given the revelation that Brown fought for a golf course over the rescue worker aid, ThinkProgress again approached Brown for comment today:
TP: Mr. Brown, in 2001 when you voted against financial aid for 9/11 rescue workers, you were pushing a bill for a tax subsidized golf course in your district. Can you explain that?
BROWN: I’m not sure what you’re referring to. [...]
TP: Are you going to explain that vote?
BROWN: Number two, we were in a financial difficulty and we couldn’t afford it unfortunately.
TP: But you could afford a tax-subsidized bond for a golf course?
BROWN: We had to obviously take care of the people of Massachusetts who needed to stay employed.
So Brown gives no support to people who are helping clean up after 9-11 but runs up debt by selling bonds to fund a golf course.If that is conservative I want no part of it,maybe that is why a big majority of {R}s make me sick.
Another I hate Rush Limbaugh thread, big deal. Listen up, a vote for the third party guy in that race would have meant that Kennedy's seat would still be in the hands of the democrats and today they would be ecstatic as they would be passing the health care bill, and steam rolling along with their 60 vote majority. Instead of them being in disarray and deflated. If your third party guy wanted to win he should have ran in the republican primary and beat Brown.
Another I hate Rush Limbaugh thread, big deal. Listen up, a vote for the third party guy in that race would have meant that Kennedy's seat would still be in the hands of the democrats and today they would be ecstatic as they would be passing the health care bill, and steam rolling along with their 60 vote majority. Instead of them being in disarray and deflated. If your third party guy wanted to win he should have ran in the republican primary and beat Brown.
This is why it's in the best interests of conservatives to help make the Republican party more conservative and not have anything to do with a third party. Liberals will vote Democrat no matter what. If conservatives start fragmenting all over the place Democrats will win election after election. I think voters are wising up to this which helps explain why Kennedy did poorly in Mass as well as the third party candidate in the New Jersey governor election.
As for Rush Limbaugh. If there was some objective way to determine who sheeple are..I guarentee those who fell for Obama's hope and change would fit the sheeple profile more than Rush listeners.
It pretty much exposes the mind of the our typical 'conservative' voter. They don't' give a rats ass about conservative values when it comes to voting. When they day comes, they ALWAYS pull for the socialist Republican. Why someone would choose to preach about conservative values all year long, and then vote for something else is beyond me. I guess they think it looks good on paper, but when down to proving they stand by their principles, they fold and pull for the socialists anyway.
Principles are meaningful only if you stand by them.
Limbaugh will never admit it, but he helped install another socialist RINO in senate.
It pretty much exposes the mind of the our typical 'conservative' voter. They don't' give a rats ass about conservative values when it comes to voting. When they day comes, they ALWAYS pull for the socialist Republican. Why someone would choose to preach about conservative values all year long, and then vote for something else is beyond me. I guess they think it looks good on paper, but when down to proving they stand by their principles, they fold and pull for the socialists anyway.
Principles are meaningful only if you stand by them.
Limbaugh will never admit it, but he helped install another socialist RINO in senate.
I guess you don't want to acknowledge ANYONE is better than a Democrat! Brown is conservative on some very key issues. It's the slobbering leftist that should worry about being sheeple. hussein obama leads them around by the nose. The leftist head are still reeling that they lost in Mass. Get ready, you are going to loose a lot more.
This is why it's in the best interests of conservatives to help make the Republican party more conservative and not have anything to do with a third party.
And you do that by promoting socialists into the ranks of the Republicans? I don't get Rush's stratergy at all.
I guess you don't want to acknowledge ANYONE is better than a Democrat!
I would have pulled for Kennedy if I had a vote there. But then again, it's not about me, and certainly not about you and your personal stabs. What is it about the socialist republicans such as yourself that you always find it more important to attack the messenger that the message? I don't get it.
Another I hate Rush Limbaugh thread, big deal. Listen up, a vote for the third party guy in that race would have meant that Kennedy's seat would still be in the hands of the democrats and today they would be ecstatic as they would be passing the health care bill, and steam rolling along with their 60 vote majority. Instead of them being in disarray and deflated. If your third party guy wanted to win he should have ran in the republican primary and beat Brown.
That was not the main point of the thread,the point was that Rush claimed this was a victory for conservatives.I guess Rush will say it's a victory for conservatives when Snowe wins her seat.It would be fair,Brown will be the same type of {R} and will stray from the reservation at times and vote with the {D}s.
As far as HC goes you do not know what is going to take place,Brown has said that the campaign is over and that he thinks everyone should have HC insurance.Did you miss the point that he was at Romney's side when Mass passed their bill which included the fine for no insurance.
When Obama was running he said he liked the Romney plan and what is being debated is pretty close to that plan.Such as the exchange,gvt subsidies,and the fine.
It would be poetic justice if the {D}s tweaked the bill slightly and Brown is the 60th vote.Now that would be a victory for conservatives and send a loud message of stop calling RINO's conservative when they are far from it.
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