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Old 02-14-2010, 01:13 PM
 
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Obama has been blaming Bush and Cheney for everything short of the Colts losing the Super Bowl!

If Obama keeps dishing it out, Cheney has every right to criticize and bite back!!

Is he suppose to to lie there and take it??? To not defend himself???
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It took that long to dismantle the "wall" erected by bubba, which prevented our intelligence agencies from communicating.
So that wall stopped the administration from listening to Richard Clarke when he was talking about Al Qaeda and instead had them focus on Iraq??
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:15 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Would those be the ones that Maliki heard from Obama and thought were just about right? Bush had spent years shunning all deadlines and timetables as things that only aided the enemy, but suddenly he couldn't wait to negotiate on when and how to get out...
Apparently, you think it's smart then, to tell the enemy when we're leaving? That certainly seems like flawed strategy. I wouldn't think you could win too many wars with that.

What school did you graduate from that teaches this kind of war planning? I doubt they teach this at West Point, Annapolis, or VMI.
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:25 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Apparently, you think it's smart then, to tell the enemy when we're leaving? That certainly seems like flawed strategy. I wouldn't think you could win too many wars with that.

What school did you graduate from that teaches this kind of war planning? I doubt they teach this at West Point, Annapolis, or VMI.
I personally think it's smart not to START an unnecessary war in the first place.

What are your thoughts on the matter?
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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Oh please. Bush always said the conditions on the ground would determine withdrawal.
Yes, and those conditions happened to be Obama sitting down to talk with Maliki.

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Obama had nothing to do with it, in fact it had been in the works for months.
All that had been in existence for months was the open-ended "conditions on the ground". That's where Bush was, that's where McCain was. Then, Poof!...16 months is the right timeframe for withdrawal with the possibility of some changes. Whole new ballgame...
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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Obama has been blaming Bush and Cheney for everything short of the Colts losing the Super Bowl!

If Obama keeps dishing it out, Cheney has every right to criticize and bite back!!

Is he suppose to to lie there and take it??? To not defend himself???
That's an interesting idea ..... BO zips his yap for awhile and maybe Dick Cheney will do the same?

How could we convince BO to try it?
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:42 PM
 
Location: South Fla
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I personally think it's smart not to START an unnecessary war in the first place.

What are your thoughts on the matter?
Flashback: Biden 2002 On Saddam: We Have To "Eliminate The Threat"

RealClearPolitics - Video - Flashback: Biden 2002 On Saddam: We Have To "Eliminate The Threat"
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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WMD's anyone?
Meaning ... what?

Go back and read all the statements Bill Clinton ever made concerning Saddam, Iraq and WMD's.

Go back and read everything else that was written about Iraq, Saddam and WMD's before Bush/Cheney.

Besides, we know he had the weapons programs, and we know he had the weapons, because he had previously used them.

Hello?

I'm so tired of hearing liberals use this as the reason why we shouldn't have gone into Iraq, and using it as an excuse to call Bush a "liar".

Problem is that liberals begin to beleive their own lies, do they not?
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:46 PM
 
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I personally think it's smart not to START an unnecessary war in the first place.

What are your thoughts on the matter?
If you believe starting an unnecessary war is a bad thing (I'm guessing you're referring to Iraq) you must be very upset Joseph Biden is VP.

Hillary Clinton being Secretary of State must be a bummer as well.
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Old 02-14-2010, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Meaning ... what?

Go back and read all the statements Bill Clinton ever made concerning Saddam, Iraq and WMD's.

Go back and read everything else that was written about Iraq, Saddam and WMD's before Bush/Cheney.

Besides, we know he had the weapons programs, and we know he had the weapons, because he had previously used them.

Hello?

I'm so tired of hearing liberals use this as the reason why we shouldn't have gone into Iraq, and using it as an excuse to call Bush a "liar".

Problem is that liberals begin to beleive their own lies, do they not?
What was being pushed by Bush as that he was creating new weapons programs, the whole Uranium debacle and what not. Of course we know he had the weapons at one point, Reagan gave it to him.
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