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Old 02-14-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Actually, supplying Iraq with weapons started under Carter. And the U.S. never gave Saddam or Iraq WMD.
The attacks against the Kurds in 88 were based off what Reagan gave him.
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:47 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You can thank Clinton and his policies for that.
Confused about who was in office on 9/11 are ya?

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Should we just ignore the numerous attacks throughout the 90's, those attacks that went unanswered, that then led directly to 9/11?

Let me list them again for you;

First WTC
USS Cole

With these two why don't you also list the responses?

Many involved in the First WTC were prosecuted/convicted by the Clinton administration.

The Cole attack occured when Clinton had 2 months left in office, hardly enough time for an investigation. The Bush response was............................................... ............NOTHING!

I guess the planning for a personal vendetta interferes with what you should be doing. And let's not forget the Bush/Cheney regime selling out the families of the victims of PanAm 103 by allowing Libya to buy their way free from guilt.

Yeah, Cheney should be listened to if you want to hear ineptitude in action.
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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With thousands of airplanes taking off every day, Bush was somehow supposed to know the 4 that would be hijacked?
Nope. Not specifically.

But anybody with his head in the game would have said, "Hmmm... we have a threat. How can we tighten down and reduce the possibility of the hijacking of any and all aircraft in this country?".

But, hey - when you're on vacation, you don't want to think about the office, huh?
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:49 PM
 
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The "Threat".... Hans Blix and UNMOVIC were in the process of doing just that. Of course, Bush couldn't wait for that to happen....
Yeah, If Hans Blix and Scott Ritter (convicted pedophile) and Seymour Hirsch (convicted American Communist) had their way they still would be on the yo-yo controlled by Sadam Hussein and his sons Utey and Cootey!

More shock and awe would have gotten these Shiites and Sunnis to be a little more agreeable. The entire Iraqi populace should have been treated like enemy combatants.
Some public hangings by American military tribunals would have done wonders as would the complete destruction of Fallujah (move the people after having segregated the women and children from men and terrorist from peaceful citizenry... then level Fallujah!) for the atrocities committed against Blackwater Americans.

Bet we would have been out of there by now and Iraq would be a damned sight more peacful and friendly.
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:49 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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If you believe starting an unnecessary war is a bad thing (I'm guessing you're referring to Iraq) you must be very upset Joseph Biden is VP.

Hillary Clinton being Secretary of State must be a bummer as well.
The Senate vote was to allow Bush to use invasion as a last resort.

It was the first thing he did.
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Old 02-14-2010, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Cheney got a good laugh at that, considering obama is following ALL the agreements the Bush Admin put in place.
Then what the hell is Cheney's problem?
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Old 02-14-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Anthrax, Washington sniper, shoe bomber?
Instructions to use plastic wrap and duct tape!
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Old 02-14-2010, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Many involved in the First WTC were prosecuted/convicted by the Clinton administration.
2. The rest, including UBL were left to plot and plan in unfettered peace.

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Then what the hell is Cheney's problem?
He was told of Biden trying to claim credit for a peaceful Iraq. He corrected the record;

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CHENEY: They opposed the surge that was absolutely crucial to our getting to the point we're at now with respect to Iraq. And for them to try to take credit for what's happened in Iraq strikes me as a little strange. I think if -- if they had had their way, if we'd followed the policies they'd pursued from the outset or advocated from the outset, Saddam Hussein would still be in power in Baghdad today.
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Old 02-14-2010, 03:04 PM
 
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Apparently, you think it's smart then, to tell the enemy when we're leaving? That certainly seems like flawed strategy. I wouldn't think you could win too many wars with that.

What school did you graduate from that teaches this kind of war planning? I doubt they teach this at West Point, Annapolis, or VMI.
You have 130,000 people over there do you think you're going to sneak out.

All right all you Iraqis close your eyes and count to ten. Yea that will work where did you go to school.

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Old 02-14-2010, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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With thousands of airplanes taking off every day, Bush was somehow supposed to know the 4 that would be hijacked?
Ever heard of airport security?
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