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Old 03-13-2010, 04:24 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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I told you the right wing attack machines smears on ACORN had absolutely no basis in fact and that singling ACORN out for defunding amounted to an unconstitutional bill of attainder. It was completely obvious from the get go that this singling out was unconstitutional and now the courts have proven me right. Suck it, haters.


YouTube - DN! Acorn Vinicated (1) in Court - Directs Funding Restored

too bad the judge was wrong, entitlements and federal money is not a constitutional matter.

also, too bad pbo wont appeal this decision to the scotus. I wonder if us normal folk can appeal it since pbo wont.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:08 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Because registering people to vote is in the national interest? You know, that whole Democracy thing.
Registering ignorant voters, non-existing voters, dead voters, to vote? Yep that would be the acorn we all know and love. It's the Democrat thing, I guess.

I guess we can substitue acorn for apple,

"The acorn did not fall far from the tree".
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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What you talking about Willis? You need to recognize the corruption. Silence is complicity.

ACORN was active in Ohio in the 2006 and 2008 elections... The group's efforts were marred by irregularities, including one case in which ACORN workers allegedly induced a Cleveland man to register to vote 72 times, offering cigarettes as an incentive.

Acorn is kicked out of Ohio. Lost their business license. And cannot register under another name.

ACORN is out of Ohio's elections | Columbus Dispatch Politics (http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/11/copy/acorn-is-out-of-ohios-elections.html?adsec=politics&sid=101 - broken link)
Now that is the upstanding BO's version of acorn we all know and love. I guess the right won this one.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:13 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Complete lies. There has never, NEVER, been a case of a single dead person voting because of ACORN. In fact due to computers there hasn't been any dead people voting since the early 1980's. You're just a liar or a fool.
Sure, and Obama is the next best thing since sliced bread and Koolaid. Drink up!
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:14 AM
 
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Too late for them in Ohio
The Ohio case is a civil suit that came down to a contest of money between financially strained ACORN and the substantial ultra-rightwing corporate funding of the Buckeye Institute.

In brief, the Buckeye Institute filed suit alleging that the Constitutional right of two plaintiffs to participate in an election undiluted by ineligible voters was abridged by ACORN's conduct of a criminal conspiracy as evidenced by its conduct of voter registration drives which -- as all such do -- produced numbers of invalid voter registration cards. The complaint contends that even if there is no evidence whatsoever that any of those invalid cards ever resulted in the registration of even a single ineligible voter or in the casting of any ineligible vote at all, the THREAT perceived by plaintiffs to their right and caused by the existence of invalid registration cards is sufficient grounds to hold ACORN liable under state RICO statutes. People with any legal background are now laughing.

Not at all surprisingly, the Magistrate's Report and Recommendation filed in federal district court called for ACORN's motion for dismissal based in part upon failure to state a claim to be granted, and for plaintiffs' motion to remand the case to the county court of common pleas to be denied. Ordinarily, that would have set the stage for demise of the plaintiffs' case, but the Buckeye Institute proceeded to file papers to contest the Magistrate's Report, indicating their willingness to litigate the matter ad infinitum.

ACORN is meanwhile involved in closing its operations in various states in light of dramatic dropoffs in individual and corporate donations resulting from publicity generated by multiple Republican smear campaigns. Ohio is one of those states. Unable and unwilling to go dollar-for-dollar against the bankrolls of the Buckeye Institute, ACORN settled the case in surrendering the business license that it no longer intended to operate under, and by agreeing not to reorganize in Ohio under a different name at a later date. The Buckeye Institute claims the latter was a key achievement in its "victory", even though the provision is entirely unenforcible.

What we have in Ohio then is a case in which every legal finding was in ACORN's favor but which the organziation was nevertheless ultimately forced to walk away from over financial concerns. Great big corporate money against little tiny grass-roots money often has a tendency to turn out this way.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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The Ohio case is a civil suit that came down to a contest of money between financially strained ACORN and the substantial ultra-rightwing corporate funding of the Buckeye Institute.

In brief, the Buckeye Institute filed suit alleging that the Constitutional right of two plaintiffs to participate in an election undiluted by ineligible voters was abridged by ACORN's conduct of a criminal conspiracy as evidenced by its conduct of voter registration drives which -- as all such do -- produced numbers of invalid voter registration cards. The complaint contends that even if there is no evidence whatsoever that any of those invalid cards ever resulted in the registration of even a single ineligible voter or in the casting of any ineligible vote at all, the THREAT perceived by plaintiffs to their right and caused by the existence of invalid registration cards is sufficient grounds to hold ACORN liable under state RICO statutes. People with any legal background are now laughing.

Not at all surprisingly, the Magistrate's Report and Recommendation filed in federal district court called for ACORN's motion for dismissal based in part upon failure to state a claim to be granted, and for plaintiffs' motion to remand the case to the county court of common pleas to be denied. Ordinarily, that would have set the stage for demise of the plaintiffs' case, but the Buckeye Institute proceeded to file papers to contest the Magistrate's Report, indicating their willingness to litigate the matter ad infinitum.

ACORN is meanwhile involved in closing its operations in various states in light of dramatic dropoffs in individual and corporate donations resulting from publicity generated by multiple Republican smear campaigns. Ohio is one of those states. Unable and unwilling to go dollar-for-dollar against the bankrolls of the Buckeye Institute, ACORN settled the case in surrendering the business license that it no longer intended to operate under, and by agreeing not to reorganize in Ohio under a different name at a later date. The Buckeye Institute claims the latter was a key achievement in its "victory", even though the provision is entirely unenforcible.

What we have in Ohio then is a case in which every legal finding was in ACORN's favor but which the organziation was nevertheless ultimately forced to walk away from over financial concerns. Great big corporate money against little tiny grass-roots money often has a tendency to turn out this way.
Spin, spin, spin. Regardless I am thankful that the corrupt acorn is at least out of Ohio. We can only hope that it is just the beginning of a long arduous journey for little acorn.

For anyone wishing to keep up with Acorn's troubles here is a great site, kind of fun.

http://acornwatch.org/
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:31 AM
 
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Spin, spin, spin. Regardless I am thankful that the corrupt acorn is at least out of Ohio. We can only hope that it is just the beginning of a long arduous journey for little acorn.
Lol, you dont like the facts so they're "spin"? That must be convenient.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:35 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Lol, you dont like the facts so they're "spin"? That must be convenient.
The facts as portrayed by a government worker? Now that is real funny!

ACORN Watch Report :: Home
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:41 AM
 
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The facts as portrayed by a government worker? Now that is real funny!

ACORN Watch Report :: Home
Lol, saganista works for the government, you dont want to believe the facts of Miller v. ACORN, therefore you wont believe any government worker?

That must be convenient, too!
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Irvine, CA to Keller, TX
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Lol, saganista works for the government, you dont want to believe the facts of Miller v. ACORN, therefore you wont believe any government worker?

That must be convenient, too!
Wow and I though saganista was commenting on a case that acorn lost and agreed to pull out of the state of Ohio.

The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now will permanently surrender its Ohio business license by June1 as part of a legal settlement with the conservative Buckeye Institute for Public Policy Solutions, both sides said yesterday.

ACORN is out of Ohio's elections | Columbus Dispatch Politics (http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/03/11/copy/acorn-is-out-of-ohios-elections.html?adsec=politics&sid=101 - broken link)

As far as believing a government worker, in this case I believe the answer is obvious.
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