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1. How much money/time have you given to charity in the last year?
2. Do you understand the difference between moral and legal responsibilities?
Health care is a moral problem, not a legal or political one. I give a lot of my time and money to my local community.
Please actually answer the two questions I asked here, don't dodge answering!
Hmm....considering I make about $8,000 (I'm sure it will be less this year since I'm working less hours than I'm used to...) a year...I'd say I've given about $750 in terms of money to charity. I'm slowly giving more each year.
As for time...not much. I serve on a few boards of some organizations, I tutor little kids...little stuff. I'd love to do more but I'm a huge procrastinator with my school work so I'm always feeling stressed.
Not everyone feels we should just give through charity and hope it all turns all right. We can very easily afford a single-payer system. We can end the wars and raise taxes on the wealthy as a start. I hate how some game the system and claim the money they made off of stocks as "income" so it will be taxed at a lower rates.
Katiana - it IS embarissing that I have to lecture someone older than me about responsibility.
Don't tell me just because I am young that I don't know anything. I am 24 years old and have put myself through college, have a full time job, have bought a house, and am currently going to grad school at night. My life isn't exactly easy, and I have not recieved handouts from ANYONE for anything I have done.
Life is an uphill battle - deal with it!
You have nothing to tell me about responsibility, bub! I'm not going to tell you my life story, either. Unlike some on this forum, I don't get my kicks out of bragging about how hard I've had it, but also unlike some, I've had to deal with some difficult situations, and big surprise! I've never received a "handout" either.
I think people who need health care and can't afford it should not have to rely on the generosity of others to get it. There needs to be a system in plance so that ALL who need it can get it.
purple what do you do.......the last time I made 8k (annually) I was 17 years old working at a white castle...and that was 32 something years ago
No, 8K a year. It will actually be less than that on next year's taxes.
I am a 19 year old college student and I work part-time (20 hrs a week).
I'm still living my parents and my mom refuses to let me work full time, plus it's really hard to find an employer willing to work with my school schedule.
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And the problem with "you guys" is you think your mother in law would still receive those procedures after the medicare budget is cut by $500 BILLION
I'm not a Liberal...or a Republican ....or a Democrat.
But I think "my mother or mother-in-law" should have access and receive the best quality care available. They both worked extremely hard their whole lives and paid the Federal government a ton's worth of cash......in taxes.
While our Congress, our Presidents, our Administrations have spent decade after decade carelessly pissing the money away on bullsh*t and lining the pockets of their Corporate masters and Special Interest groups..
Furthermore, when Congress and Senators all over the country are giving themselves nice raises and are card-carrying Gold Medical Care members; all on our tax money.
Now, I'm not at all encouraged or an advocate of the so-called "Health Care " reforms that have been submitted. I haven't read tghe most current version, but did read the prior version.
The problem I see is, that it's not a reform. The Insurance companys (who are nothing, if they are not synonymous with the Banking/Financial industry) and the big Pharmaceutical companies are still being catered to, appeased and unregulated. And that's exactly what got us into the pathetic state of healthcare, we're in now.
But I want to see a real reform and a real comprehensive coverage plan for all Americans. A plan as comprehensive and as high of a quality; as our Gold Card Congressmen/women.
If those crooks have it, the American people have to have it, too.
I'm not a Liberal...or a Republican ....or a Democrat.
But I think "my mother or mother-in-law" should have access and receive the best quality care available. They both worked extremely hard their whole lives and paid the Federal government a ton's worth of cash......in taxes.
While our Congress, our Presidents, our Administrations have spent decade after decade carelessly pissing the money away on bullsh*t and lining the pockets of their Corporate masters and Special Interest groups..
Furthermore, when Congress and Senators all over the country are giving themselves nice raises and are card-carrying Gold Medical Care members; all on our tax money.
Now, I'm not at all encouraged or an advocate of the so-called "Health Care " reforms that have been submitted. I haven't read tghe most current version, but did read the prior version.
The problem I see is, that it's not a reform. The Insurance companys (who are nothing, if they are not synonymous with the Banking/Financial industry) and the big Pharmaceutical companies are still being catered to, appeased and unregulated. And that's exactly what got us into the pathetic state of healthcare, we're in now.
But I want to see a real reform and a real comprehensive coverage plan for all Americans. A plan as comprehensive and as high of a quality; as our Gold Card Congressmen/women.
If those crooks have it, the American people have to have it, too.
While our Congress, our Presidents, our Administrations have spent decade after decade carelessly pissing the money away on bullsh*t and lining the pockets of their Corporate masters and Special Interest groups..
I was just saying that you can't say all 19 year olds are uninformed or have experienced nothing in life.
Sorry, I wasn't clear...I didn't mean all 19 year olds, just the one I was talking to.
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then you might want to move up a couple of postings where hnsq was written off for ONLY being 24
A lot has happened to me since I started supporting myself financially at 18.
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Originally Posted by PurpleLove08
Hmm....considering I make about $8,000 (I'm sure it will be less this year since I'm working less hours than I'm used to...) a year...I'd say I've given about $750 in terms of money to charity. I'm slowly giving more each year.
As for time...not much. I serve on a few boards of some organizations, I tutor little kids...little stuff. I'd love to do more but I'm a huge procrastinator with my school work so I'm always feeling stressed.
Not everyone feels we should just give through charity and hope it all turns all right. We can very easily afford a single-payer system. We can end the wars and raise taxes on the wealthy as a start. I hate how some game the system and claim the money they made off of stocks as "income" so it will be taxed at a lower rates.
Again, since you avoided my second question I will ask it - do you know the difference between a moral and legal obligation?
We agree that people have a moral obligation to help others, but I do not think we have a legal one. Please address this.
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Originally Posted by Katiana
You have nothing to tell me about responsibility, bub! I'm not going to tell you my life story, either. Unlike some on this forum, I don't get my kicks out of bragging about how hard I've had it, but also unlike some, I've had to deal with some difficult situations, and big surprise! I've never received a "handout" either.
I think people who need health care and can't afford it should not have to rely on the generosity of others to get it. There needs to be a system in plance so that ALL who need it can get it.
I don't "get my kicks" from bragging. I was trying to explain a point, which apparently you missed completely.
You say there needs to be a system in place - on what grounds? What is the justification for what you are saying, beyond you 'feeling bad' for them? Laws and policies should be based on facts, not emotions.
And furthermore, we have a lack of affordable health care because of a lack of competition in the insurance industry. If we did away with the excessive governmenal regulation, we would have more private sector cometition which would in turn lower prices. When the government tries to regulate a free market economy everyone loses, as we have clearly seen in the past few years!
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