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I've had enough of private companies dictating health care.
We need to take the profit out of the system and then we'll see costs decrease.
It's the insurance, not the doctors doing it.
Bypass the insurance and your costs will go down.
Find a doctor that takes cash. Then you just need insurance for hospital and catastrophic care.
That is the free market. There should always be profit else why would anyone work hard to have their own business. It's the insurance companies that came in and took over normal doctor visits and prescription medicine.
Dentists are reasonably priced although insurance has wrangled its way in there too. And cosmetic surgery..no insurance there and the prices are not sky high.
When there is no insurance and you have to pay out of pocket..the prices will go down as cash only doctors can cut out the middleman and save themselves a salary or two since they don't need extra people just filling out and following up on insurance claims.
It's the insurance, not the doctors doing it.
Bypass the insurance and your costs will go down.
Find a doctor that takes cash. Then you just need insurance for hospital and catastrophic care.
That is the free market. There should always be profit else why would anyone work hard to have their own business. It's the insurance companies that came in and took over normal doctor visits and prescription medicine.
Dentists are reasonably priced although insurance has wrangled its way in there too. And cosmetic surgery..no insurance there and the prices are not sky high.
When there is no insurance and you have to pay out of pocket..the prices will go down as cash only doctors can cut out the middleman and save themselves a salary or two since they don't need extra people just filling out and following up on insurance claims.
I'd hate to see the cost of chemo under the "free market system." I still think it would be prohibitively expensive for people.
I don't disagree that insurance inflates prices. They are middlemen.
I disagree there should ALWAYS be a profit.
I say we go towards single-payer like so many other countries have done.
It's much easier and if docs don't want to be part of the system, so be it. They can see people who want private health insurance or who want to pay cash for all their services.
Their reasons for opposing it were stupid and appealed to people who will take them at their word and not research the facts.
It wasn't a "socialist health care system" (I'm a socialist and PLENTY of socialists hate the bill) and it isn't a "government takeover of health care."
I've had enough of private companies dictating health care.
We need to take the profit out of the system and then we'll see costs decrease.
I don't why anyone would think it was a govt takeover of healthcare.
Could it be Obama said he wanted a government takeover of healthcare and then offers up a bill of thousands of pages and hundreds of new taxes? And the dems try their best not to let anyone know what is in it before they vote on it?
El Salvador also has a non-profit single payer system.
I don't know anything about it. You should research and see which is cheaper.
I don't need to research it. I know which one is cheaper. The private one.
I lived in socialist Cuba for some time. You should really move there and see how long you support socialist medicine. Or any type of big government.
I'd hate to see the cost of chemo under the "free market system." I still think it would be prohibitively expensive for people.
I don't disagree that insurance inflates prices. They are middlemen.
I disagree there should ALWAYS be a profit.
I say we go towards single-payer like so many other countries have done.
It's much easier and if docs don't want to be part of the system, so be it. They can see people who want private health insurance or who want to pay cash for all their services.
Everyone wins, eh?
That cost would be covered..note I said insurance for hospital and catastrophic care (illness). What you don't need insurance for are the normal doctor visits, etc.
That is how the health system used to work years ago. You only used insurance when you went into the hospital (and that would include cancer).
I don't why anyone would think it was a govt takeover of healthcare.
Could it be Obama said he wanted a government takeover of healthcare and then offers up a bill of thousands of pages and hundreds of new taxes? And the dems try their best not to let anyone know what is in it before they vote on it?
El Salvador also has a non-profit single payer system.
I don't know anything about it. You should research and see which is cheaper.
I don't need to research it. I know which one is cheaper. The private one.
I lived in socialist Cuba for some time. You should really move there and see how long you support socialist medicine. Or any type of big government.
Socialists want the PEOPLE to control things that affect everyone such as health care, energy, education, etc.
We don't want corporations in control and we don't want the government controlling everything either.
I'm not aware of Obama saying he wanted a government takeover of health care. Any chance you can find me a video clip of him saying this or an audio clip?
I'm not aware of Obama saying he wanted a government takeover of health care. Any chance you can find me a video clip of him saying this or an audio clip?
This is the exact thinking that got us into this mess.
That cost would be covered..note I said insurance for hospital and catastrophic care (illness). What you don't need insurance for are the normal doctor visits, etc.
That is how the health system used to work years ago. You only used insurance when you went into the hospital (and that would include cancer).
I doubt insurance is going up because of visits to primary care docs.
It's going up because humans get sick (it's inevitable) and the costs of treatment is expensive. Chemo isn't cheap, being in the hospital isn't cheap, etc.
The goals of health insurance companies to make money by denying claims or denying payment to claims are diametrically opposed to the needs of people who buy health insurance with the expectation their medical bills will be paid for.
Ahhh...sure you didn't claim it would have higher costs but you're trying to make people believe that government run insurance won't save money.
Sure, why would it save money? Why would a government run insurance have lower operating costs?
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Originally Posted by PurpleLove08
Have you even looked at the literature on single-payer outside of right-wing websites?
Have you looked at it outside biased liberal sources? A single-payer system is in no sense a clear win, there are a number of problems that arise in such a system.
This is the exact thinking that got us into this mess.
I got a clue for you...
Actions speak louder than any words.
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Obama.
I wasn't old enough to vote for Clinton or Bush....
Clinton signed NAFTA so he forever has earned my hatred for that.
Bush got us into two useless wars, gave us NCLB, gave us Medicare Part D...the list goes on.
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