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Old 04-07-2010, 09:26 AM
 
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For one thing the issue will never go away and yes, we know that it is LEGAL. It is very offensive to many but really nothing we can do about it.

A part of the sadness is for the mother as well as the baby. Have you ever tried to tell your teenager something and years later they say "Mom, now I understand"? Or have you as an adult ever thought back and said "Now I understand that my Mother really did know what she was talking about"? Why didn't I listen to her?

I just want to say that from a grandmothers point of view, when you are old and gray with aches and pains, your greatest joy will be your children and your grandchildren. I think it will be very sad to know that one of yours is not there and it was all because of you. There will always be that empty place to remind you. I think you will not care that it was legal but only care that you did it.

In our family we have 2 children that were adopted and we love them with all of our hearts. The Mother of one has just spent a week with her child and yes, she cried when she had to go home but she knows that he knows what she did for him and he LOVES her for it. She loves that he is alive and so much like her. She was only 16 at the time and she listened to her great grandmother who also came to visit.

I have talked many out of having an abortion and they have ALL come back to thank me over and over again. I have tried to talk some out of having one and they have come to regret what they did.

I get very angry when I hear the smug pro choice reasoning because they never mention the damage to the mothers heart that comes from her choice. She will feel it eventually and so will her mother and grandmother.

Much better to use birth control than to put yourself into that situation because it is not without heartache and you will never erase the memory of what you did or the empty place because of it.

That's just how I feel about this and nobody can ever change my mind or stop me from warning people because if I stop, I will feel I have let looked the other way and I can't do that.

Abortion will ALWAYS be an issue, you can't erase it from the mothers heart, even if they don't understand yet.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:29 AM
 
Location: North America
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Much better to use birth control than to put yourself into that situation because it is not without heartache and you will never erase the memory of what you did or the empty place because of it.

That's just how I feel about this and nobody can ever change my mind or stop me from warning people because if I stop, I will feel I have let looked the other way and I can't do that.

Abortion will ALWAYS be an issue, you can't erase it from the mothers heart, even if they don't understand yet.


I am pro-choice, and I understand this OP is coming from your heart. You understand that all women who choose abortion are not callously entering into that decision, and I applaud you for it.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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I have talked many out of having an abortion and they have ALL come back to thank me over and over again. I have tried to talk some out of having one and they have come to regret what they did.
How unbelievably arrogant and irresponsible of you.

I too have had people come to me for advice. We have talked through ALL the options available to them, as well as the real impact each will have on their lives. One thing I would never do is coerce someone to do anything based on my opinions, it is ultimately their decision to make.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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How unbelievably arrogant and irresponsible of you.

I too have had people come to me for advice. We have talked through ALL the options available to them, as well as the real impact each will have on their lives. One thing I would never do is coerce someone to do anything based on my opinions, it is ultimately their decision to make.
The pro-life opinion doesn't result in someone's death.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:48 AM
 
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You might want to look more deeply into the statistics of suicide among pregnant teens...
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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The pro-life opinion doesn't result in someone's death.
Incorrect. The pro-life opinion is only concerned with the life of the emryo/fetus, not someone. After birth the pro-lifers could care less about the welfare of the child.
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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For one thing the issue will never go away and yes, we know that it is LEGAL. It is very offensive to many but really nothing we can do about it.

A part of the sadness is for the mother as well as the baby. Have you ever tried to tell your teenager something and years later they say "Mom, now I understand"? Or have you as an adult ever thought back and said "Now I understand that my Mother really did know what she was talking about"? Why didn't I listen to her?

I just want to say that from a grandmothers point of view, when you are old and gray with aches and pains, your greatest joy will be your children and your grandchildren. I think it will be very sad to know that one of yours is not there and it was all because of you. There will always be that empty place to remind you. I think you will not care that it was legal but only care that you did it.

In our family we have 2 children that were adopted and we love them with all of our hearts. The Mother of one has just spent a week with her child and yes, she cried when she had to go home but she knows that he knows what she did for him and he LOVES her for it. She loves that he is alive and so much like her. She was only 16 at the time and she listened to her great grandmother who also came to visit.

I have talked many out of having an abortion and they have ALL come back to thank me over and over again. I have tried to talk some out of having one and they have come to regret what they did.

I get very angry when I hear the smug pro choice reasoning because they never mention the damage to the mothers heart that comes from her choice. She will feel it eventually and so will her mother and grandmother.

Much better to use birth control than to put yourself into that situation because it is not without heartache and you will never erase the memory of what you did or the empty place because of it.

That's just how I feel about this and nobody can ever change my mind or stop me from warning people because if I stop, I will feel I have let looked the other way and I can't do that.

Abortion will ALWAYS be an issue, you can't erase it from the mothers heart, even if they don't understand yet.
I think you make a great point in the potential damage to the mothers mental make up. I lived and seen the damage it can do
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Incorrect. The pro-life opinion is only concerned with the life of the emryo/fetus, not someone. After birth the pro-lifers could care less about the welfare of the child.

yeah, I suppose that's why prolifers are more likely to donate money to help them, unlike liberals. Liberals aren't very liberal when it comes to donating to charities.

All you care about is your selfish wants, and to make others pay for your irresponsibility. ME ME ME! It's all about me and what I want! I should be able to kill my child because it's an inconvenience to me! GRRRL POWER!
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Incorrect. The pro-life opinion is only concerned with the life of the emryo/fetus, not someone. After birth the pro-lifers could care less about the welfare of the child.
You come back with this false talking point which you make with no facts to back your opinion up with. the only thing you have to defend the genocide is to make baseless claims
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Old 04-07-2010, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Geneva, IL
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You come back with this false talking point which you make with no facts to back your opinion up with. the only thing you have to defend the genocide is to make baseless claims
So you support extensive sexual education in schools, you supported the HCR's which would undoubtedly help the families in which these children are born, and you are not opposed to helping out families who are struggling as they have children they can't afford?
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