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Old 04-13-2010, 01:21 PM
 
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Im from Maine and a small densely populated area in the south eastern part of the state, that is more of a suburb of massachusetts then anything else gets to deicide the course of the entire state even with issus that dont affect that part of the state like hunting and trapping laws and the "Real Mainers" dont get a say even with the fact that they cover the geographical majority.
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:30 PM
 
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Im from Maine and a small densely populated area in the south eastern part of the state, that is more of a suburb of massachusetts then anything else gets to deicide the course of the entire state even with issus that dont affect that part of the state like hunting and trapping laws and the "Real Mainers" dont get a say even with the fact that they cover the geographical majority.
I think it's an interesting issue. A few points of clarification, though.

What do you mean when you say "Real Mainers"? Seems like a bit of a mystification of some notion of authenticity.

Also, how do you think this change in representation would practically go about?
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:34 PM
 
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Im from Maine and a small densely populated area in the south eastern part of the state, that is more of a suburb of massachusetts then anything else gets to deicide the course of the entire state even with issus that dont affect that part of the state like hunting and trapping laws and the "Real Mainers" dont get a say even with the fact that they cover the geographical majority.
Unless you have different laws than the rest of the US, every free citizen in Maine has one vote, including you, that is democracy. One man, one vote. If they outnumber your area they have more votes.
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Old 04-13-2010, 01:35 PM
 
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I'm don't know that much about Maines political system, does it not have a Senate?

The fact of the matter is, majority rules. If you don't like the part of Maine you're speaking of, perhaps you should ask to put on the ballot, a measure to annex that part to Massachusetts.

This was a question to our founding fathers as well. Thats why they made a Senate. However, its not clear that a Senate is actually needed.

You've asked an age old question, to an age old problem. But, as I said before, in a Democracy, majority rules.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:26 PM
 
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I think it's an interesting issue. A few points of clarification, though.

What do you mean when you say "Real Mainers"?
People that have lived and worked in the state for generations, not people that live within an hour of the state border that moved here since the 1960s as part of the growing outer edge of Massachusetts suburbs that most people call the Vovo line.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:34 PM
 
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People that have lived and worked in the state for generations, not people that live within an hour of the state border that moved here since the 1960s as part of the growing outer edge of Massachusetts suburbs that most people call the Vovo line.

So living in Maine for the last 50 years does not include you as a "Real Mainers"?

And what about all the people that were born and bread in these areas for the last 50 years? They are not "Real Mainers" either?
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:38 PM
 
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Is there a specific legislative issue that has you up in arms? Just curious.
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Old 04-13-2010, 02:47 PM
 
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I wonder about this in California myself. California's largest industry happens to be agriculture but the majority of the voters live in only 3 urban population centers. Seems a bit lob-sided to me. By the same token, I don't see any alternatives.
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:06 PM
 
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So living in Maine for the last 50 years does not include you as a "Real Mainers"?

And what about all the people that were born and bread in these areas for the last 50 years? They are not "Real Mainers" either?
Maine on average has some of the oldest non native American population in the U.S so 50 years is nothing.
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:11 PM
 
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Representation is per person, not by amount of land owned or by proportion of land use. FromMaine seems to be devising a way to circumvent our representative concept because of some feeling of being slighted. I understand there's always a struggle between the needs of the urban and the rural populations but there is no easy way to solve this except to elect people who can represent both groups equally. I'm sure the rural people of Illinois feel slighted since half the population of that state lives in just one urban county. Perhaps one solution would be to redraw the lines on the map to balance the rural/urban populations. But then someone will complain that their group wasn't addressed and we'd open up a whole new can of worms.
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