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Old 05-19-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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Just like clockwork. Like 90% of the time they do this. If you ask them why Black voters vote overwhelming Democrat, they respond "because they give them welfare, they promise them free things" As if the majority of Black voters are swayed by this and the majority of White voters are not swayed by this.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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Here's a better quaestion. Why is the left so concerned about race? All the left talks about anymore is race. Is it the goal of that side to drive the racial wedge between the American citizens?
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:44 PM
 
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Here's a better quaestion. Why is the left so concerned about race? All the left talks about anymore is race. Is it the goal of that side to drive the racial wedge between the American citizens?
Strawman. We are concerned about racism, not race. Good job of avoiding the question. Fail nevertheless.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:46 PM
 
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Just like clockwork. Like 90% of the time they do this. If you ask them why Black voters vote overwhelming Democrat, they respond "because they give them welfare, they promise them free things" As if the majority of Black voters are swayed by this and the majority of White voters are not swayed by this.
Are you telling me the Democratic platform doesnt consist of handouts?
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:49 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Read and edify yourself:
The Democratic Party

Prediction: You will come back and say things it didn't say or make some ridiculous and erroneous interpretation that further demonizes the Democratic party and conforms to your very rigid view.
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Old 05-19-2010, 12:52 PM
 
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Strawman. We are concerned about racism, not race. Good job of avoiding the question. Fail nevertheless.
Your question answers itself. Race baiter.....
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:10 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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I think that it is a matter of perception with some. Whites recieve, in absolute numbers, more than blacks in welfare benefits because there is almost a 6 to 1 white to black population. The perception that blacks are the "welfare class" though is because of the percentage of those within the given races is so vastly different. Whites on welfare represent about 13% of the white population while blacks on welfare represent nearly 30% of the black population.

So, it is as if people use the higher percentage, or more correctly probability, that a black person is recieving welfare than a given white person is the cause for the perception. But the overall poverty rates for the different races is almost identical to the likelihood of being on welfare as well.

In total numbers, although not by probability, whites are the ultimate welfare race though.
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:10 PM
 
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Just like clockwork. Like 90% of the time they do this. If you ask them why Black voters vote overwhelming Democrat, they respond "because they give them welfare, they promise them free things" As if the majority of Black voters are swayed by this and the majority of White voters are not swayed by this.

first off, thanks for the "90%" insert there...you could have been like most others and say "ALL"...

second off, welfare is a huge problem...and correct me if i'm wrong, but the majority of folks on welfare are minorities, and the majority of those minorites are Black.

with that being said, if discussing why Black voters are overwhelmingly voting Democrat, then welfare would play a significant role in the discussion. and it's a problem b/c there is fear driven into uneducated minorities that voting anything other than Democrats will only make their living conditions worse...it's sad, b/c i would bet they feel their hands are tied, and although their living conditions aren't exactly improving, they probably have a hard time with who they are to believe.

what you'll find outside of C/D, is that there are many Conservatives that are concerned with the poor, and have differing ideas on how to improve their situation. Welfare needs fixed, there's no denying that...what they don't need is more of the same, which has been attention only during election season. then after elections they seem to fall off the map...
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:12 PM
 
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Here's a better quaestion. Why is the left so concerned about race? All the left talks about anymore is race. Is it the goal of that side to drive the racial wedge between the American citizens?

Exactly. How many threads have been started by this exact same poster regarding race?
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Old 05-19-2010, 01:14 PM
 
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I think that it is a matter of perception with some. Whites recieve, in absolute numbers, more than blacks in welfare benefits because there is almost a 6 to 1 white to black population. The perception that blacks are the "welfare class" though is because of the percentage of those within the given races is so vastly different. Whites on welfare represent about 13% of the white population while blacks on welfare represent nearly 30% of the black population.

So, it is as if people use the higher percentage, or more correctly probability, that a black person is recieving welfare than a given white person is the cause for the perception. But the overall poverty rates for the different races is almost identical to the likelihood of being on welfare as well.

In total numbers, although not by probability, whites are the ultimate welfare race though.

thanks for that, i wasn't sure...
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