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I remember that song in the early '80s, followed by the movie. But I thought it was sort of a joke outside the female version of the 'surfer dewd' accent of CA.
Nope. I hear girls all the time with that sort of way of talking. How did we arrive here?
Yesh, we do hear it a lot here in California. I think we do that when we are talking to friends, um, I do, and I'm a LOT over 20, we do it when we aren't thinking about what we're talking about and we're feeling laid back.
Sometimes we do it when we don't care for the person we're talking to and we just, like, want them to go away.
We don't do it when we are trying to be professional, intellectual, or even sexy.
Back in the 80s and 90s Valley Girl had a dictionary sized secret vocab that you really couldn't know all of unless you were from the valley, most of it was codeword for how loser other people were.
Yesh, we do hear it a lot here in California. I think we do that when we are talking to friends, um, I do, and I'm a LOT over 20, we do it when we aren't thinking about what we're talking about and we're feeling laid back.
Sometimes we do it when we don't care for the person we're talking to and we just, like, want them to go away.
We don't do it when we are trying to be professional, intellectual, or even sexy.
Back in the 80s and 90s Valley Girl had a dictionary sized secret vocab that you really couldn't know all of unless you were from the valley, most of it was codeword for how loser other people were.
Yeah but in California it's expected. Like the flat vowels of the Midwest or the nasally folks on the East Coast.
But hearing girls say "OMIGAWWWD!!!!" all the time? Like OMG!
Remember that California is a very large state with the most people. This is not a California issue. This is a Valley issue as in a segment of the City of Los Angeles. Even there I have hardly heard Valley talk get too much out of hand anymore. If others are following an old order from another time that is on them. It is not expected that anyone talk like that in California. That is a large misconception that an entire state is speaking in a given speach pattern. Not the case.
Related to this California-speak tendency is the tendency to end every sentence on an up-note, like it's a question.
"So I was out with this guy? And we went to that new bar on Center Street? ...and at the end of the night he took me home? and then I like jumped him?"
But I even hear professionals using this tone, even when giving professional talks:
"We made some plans to alter the program and incorporate more substance abuse services? ...And this led to more involvement by the clients with co-occurring mental health and substance use disorders? and we saw a decrease in perceived stigma?..."
I think people picked it up from TV (most TV comes from CA, no?) and then it spreads around among people like some kind of verbal herpes.
Once you pay attention to it, you'll hear it all the time and it's really annoying. I kind of wish I never took the "red pill" and noticed it, and I could just go back to the "matrix" of ignorance and not be aware of it anymore. It makes my ears bleed? you know?
Related to this California-speak tendency is the tendency to end every sentence on an up-note, like it's a question.
"So I was out with this guy? And we went to that new bar on Center Street? ...and at the end of the night he took me home? and then I like jumped him?"
But I even hear professionals using this tone, even when giving professional talks:
"We made some plans to alter the program and incorporate more substance abuse services? ...And this led to more involvement by the clients with co-occurring mental health and substance use disorders? and we saw a decrease in perceived stigma?..."
I think people picked it up from TV (most TV comes from CA, no?) and then it spreads around among people like some kind of verbal herpes.
Once you pay attention to it, you'll hear it all the time and it's really annoying. I kind of wish I never took the "red pill" and noticed it, and I could just go back to the "matrix" of ignorance and not be aware of it anymore. It makes my ears bleed? you know?
I had a niece who spoke like that when she was a teenager with that question mark at the end of every sentence. HATED that. She outgrew it, thank God, but if someone started talking that way at work, I think I'd have to say something.
I hear this kind of talk more so now than in the 1980s. Recently I've mentioned this to a few people "what's with this baby talk?" I hear so called professionals speak this way on the phone, TV and co-workers. The age ranges from 10 years old to nearly 40 it seems. It sounds childish and immature, ear screaching.
I think the vocal fry is worse. It is so habit forming, I have heard young people's speech patterns change almost overnight. Hearing men do it is just . It actually hurts my ears.
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. It actually hurts my ears.
