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Old 08-24-2015, 07:13 PM
 
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It this just me realizing now or have I missed the memo of bumper to bumper traffic in evening going west on Kit Creek to NC55 the backup is all the way past Netapp. Has it worsened after the new signals were installed or just the increase in cars?


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Old 08-24-2015, 07:41 PM
 
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Its always pretty bad at rush hour. Kit Creek should really be four lanes all the way from Green Level to Davis, imo. Most of the traffic that backs up towards 55 is due to people waiting to turn left.
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Old 08-24-2015, 07:47 PM
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Its always pretty bad at rush hour. Kit Creek should really be four lanes all the way from Green Level to Davis, imo. Most of the traffic that backs up towards 55 is due to people waiting to turn left.
This pretty much.
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Old 08-24-2015, 07:54 PM
 
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Traffic is always worse everywhere the first day that traditional schools are back in session...
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Old 08-25-2015, 07:29 AM
 
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This is my opinion based on nothing other than observation. I could be way off but....first day of school is when I realize how many people moved to the Triangle during the summer. Every year traffic has gotten progressively worse when school is in.
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Old 08-25-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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If it's in Morrisville, you can expect it to be poorly managed.

This is the same issue you see with traffic on 54 between Morrisville Carpenter and McCrimmon. For whatever reason, the town refuses to accept reality when it comes to necessary improvements to existing roadways. I remember reading that 4 lanes from 540 to Weston Parkway is at least 15-20 years off? That's insane.

Kit Creek clearly warrants 4 lanes from Davis to 55 with all the people working there. It's only going get worse.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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If it's in Morrisville, you can expect it to be poorly managed.

This is the same issue you see with traffic on 54 between Morrisville Carpenter and McCrimmon. For whatever reason, the town refuses to accept reality when it comes to necessary improvements to existing roadways. I remember reading that 4 lanes from 540 to Weston Parkway is at least 15-20 years off? That's insane.

Kit Creek clearly warrants 4 lanes from Davis to 55 with all the people working there. It's only going get worse.
It's only poorly managed because so many people from other places drive through our town. Stay out and it's way better.

But a more serious answer is these are all NCDOT roads and they are the ones who are behind. The town has been begging them and CAMPO to prioritize roads in this area for years and they do nothing. Between the "equity formula" that for years starved the Triangle, Charlotte and Triad areas while building roads near powerful legislators houses and land in the rural counties to the fact that Morrisville has very few votes on CAMPO compared to the many for Raleigh and it's hard to get things built. Also, couple that with the fact that so many people from other areas do drive through here and it's not a good situation.

The town of a bit over 20,000 people has spent money on projects and is slated to spend more in efforts to receive traffic issues not of our causation. Cary has also done the same with Davis Drive.

Now Morrisville and Cary have both spent money to help move the design for 54 along and the DOT is moving forward with the early stages (though they are going to push the super street madness like on 55). The DOT formula has been changed a bit so the project scored well, but still it is like 2020 at the earliest to start last I checked.

Alos, I am pretty sure Kit Creek was put in by the RTP well before 540 went in with the ridiculous decision to not have exits on Davis (which was a dual purpose move to save money and cause people to have to take the toll road) so that revised people's commute quite a bit from what they always though would happen.
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Old 08-25-2015, 10:52 AM
 
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If it's in Morrisville, you can expect it to be poorly managed.

This is the same issue you see with traffic on 54 between Morrisville Carpenter and McCrimmon. For whatever reason, the town refuses to accept reality when it comes to necessary improvements to existing roadways. I remember reading that 4 lanes from 540 to Weston Parkway is at least 15-20 years off? That's insane.
54 is a state road...talk to NCDOT. It's not as simple as just widening the road. The road already impinges on the railroad right of way in places, and so in order to widen they're talking about moving some sections of the road.


Kit Creek and 55 isn't Morrisville anyway...it's Cary, Cary ETJ, and RTP land. And of course NCDOT is involved too.
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Old 08-25-2015, 01:07 PM
 
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It's only poorly managed because so many people from other places drive through our town. Stay out and it's way better.
Funny, but I was actually at a public meeting in Morrisville a few years back and heard almost these exact words from a lady there. She was disagreeing with the need for more connectivity between roads in Morrisville because "If we build the roads, we can't make sure that only people who live here will use them and it's bad now because there are already too many people from other places on our roads."

I couldn't help my self and made one of these: even though I know it's not representative Morrisville residents attitudes in general (at least I hope it isn't...).
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Old 08-25-2015, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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Oh there are still some people that think that way and are uneducated as to why connections are good. For my neighborhood, it's a lifesaver that we can go out the back and go a whole different way when traffic is bad. Also makes for good walking, running, etc.

Morrisville has a few hundred people that were here 20 plus years ago and a few thousand 15 years ago and some still wish they could close the door on everyone else. Short of moving the town away from a few major employment centers and away from the center of the triangle, there's not much we can do to make it less desireable.

But the fact remains that 22,000 people can't on their own, foot the bill for the roads required for 100,000 to drive on, but due to the location, that's about what happens.
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