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View Poll Results: Which city do you think will be getting Amazon HQ2?
Raleigh (Triangle area) 73 24.17%
Charlotte 6 1.99%
Austin 33 10.93%
Pittsburgh 16 5.30%
NYC Area (NY/NJ) 8 2.65%
Philly 5 1.66%
Detroit 6 1.99%
Miami 1 0.33%
Atlanta 62 20.53%
Boston 24 7.95%
Somewhere else 68 22.52%
Voters: 302. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-11-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Raleigh doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting Amazon here. The reason: Our complete and utter lack of a modern transportation infrastructure. Nobody wants their employees stuck in gridlocked traffic, and none of our "leaders" seem to have any interest in high-speed rail or any other advanced people-moving system. As long as we continue with a small-town mentality, that's the way we'll be perceived.
So Atlanta's out too?
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:37 PM
 
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So Atlanta's out too?
No; Atlanta actually has heavy rail transit with set plans for transit expansion.
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Old 06-11-2018, 03:51 PM
 
Location: Danville, VA
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Let the Amazon pack go the counties needing good jobs, not here.
As you’ve already been told multiple times, Amazon is NOT gonna build HQ2 in a rural county, nor are any major tech jobs gonna go to rural counties. Manufacturing jobs are more well-suited to rural counties, most recent example being the announcement a few months ago that Triangle Tire Co. will build a large tire plant off of US-64/Future I-87 in Edgecombe County at the Kingsboro megasite.
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Old 06-11-2018, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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No; Atlanta actually has heavy rail transit with set plans for transit expansion.
There is no comparing the traffic in Atlanta to the traffic in Raleigh. Yes, it's a pain to commute to the park, but that pales against trying to get from the Atlanta airport to anywhere north, or vice versa, at anytime during the day.

Atlanta is chasing it's tail, because it didn't have a plan when real growth hit. Raleigh needs to take a lesson.

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Old 06-11-2018, 04:09 PM
 
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No; Atlanta actually has heavy rail transit with set plans for transit expansion.
When's the last time you sat in Atlanta traffic? Despite MARTA we're no where near that level of traffic (the poster's quote was - "Nobody wants their employees stuck in gridlocked traffic" which also means D.C. is out too.
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Old 06-11-2018, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Morrisville, NC
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When's the last time you sat in Atlanta traffic? Despite MARTA we're no where near that level of traffic (the poster's quote was - "Nobody wants their employees stuck in gridlocked traffic" which also means D.C. is out too.
No single one thing Amazon said in their RFP or any other document means anything! At least none of us knows which things really matter. They plopped down a laundry list of their most ideal situation and from what I can see no one City or area ticks every single box. So, just like on House Hunters, they have to toss one out and pick between two, (multiply as needed at each step of this process) and also just like House Hunters, they probably didn’t really reveal their truest of intentions publicly and it may well all be rigged anyway.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:02 PM
 
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When's the last time you sat in Atlanta traffic? Despite MARTA we're no where near that level of traffic (the poster's quote was - "Nobody wants their employees stuck in gridlocked traffic" which also means D.C. is out too.
Except cities like DC and Atlanta can offer sites near rail stations which means that many of their employees won't have to be stuck in gridlocked traffic.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:05 PM
 
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There is no comparing the traffic in Atlanta to the traffic in Raleigh. Yes, it's a pain to commute to the park, but that pales against trying to get from the Atlanta airport to anywhere north, or vice versa, at anytime during the day.
Except you can take MARTA from the airport to downtown and other points north.

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Atlanta is chasing it's tail, because it didn't have a plan when real growth hit. Raleigh needs to take a lesson.
Raleigh's road network is pretty good for a metro its size and hopefully it continues to expand as the region grows but Atlanta was already planning for heavy rail when it was around the Triangle's present size. At least the Durham side of the region has plans for light rail.

Bad traffic just goes along with being a major metro. There's no top 10 metro in the country that doesn't have bad traffic.
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Old 06-11-2018, 05:10 PM
 
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Except you can take MARTA from the airport to downtown and other points north.



Raleigh's road network is pretty good for a metro its size and hopefully it continues to expand as the region grows but Atlanta was already planning for heavy rail when it was around the Triangle's present size. At least the Durham side of the region has plans for light rail.
I'm not arguing with you, I was responding to the person who said Amazon wouldn't consider grid locked cities when pretty much all of the top spots (Boston, Atlanta, D.C. Austin) are horrible traffic places.
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Old 06-11-2018, 06:39 PM
 
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I'm not arguing with you, I was responding to the person who said Amazon wouldn't consider grid locked cities when pretty much all of the top spots (Boston, Atlanta, D.C. Austin) are horrible traffic places.
Precisely. And even in the cities on the shortlist whose traffic isn't as bad now, HQ2 would certainly make it worse.
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