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Old 09-03-2010, 02:22 PM
 
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my "roommate" is my girl friend's brother. he didn't really ask to live with us, just showed up and took it upon himself to live there (which initially i was cool with) because we owe him 1000. Since he has been living with us it has been nothing but constant arguing with his sister (my gf). He doesn't have a job and just chills at our house all day and smokes (herbals). So today he got into with my gf again on the phone claiming if we don't give him his money he is going to break our tv and computer. So i called him and checked him (he claims he wouldn't do anything like that) saying that where i come from when someone says they are going to do something they do it. How would you deal with this situation. I want him out of my place tonight, but we can't give him the full 1k only a portion. Do you guys feel that since he has been living with us rent free and provided for (we cook for him too) should he still be entitled to the full repayment?

he has been living with us for a little over a month at our current spot
and about a month at a previous spot
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I think it sounds like he should be "paid in full."
Room and board, food, electricity...anything that he would be paying IF he was on his own, and two months is more than enough.
Figure it out on paper. I bet its well over 1K.
Kick him to the curb!
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:31 PM
 
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I would try to pay him and kick him out. If the gf doesn't agree, a new gf too. Excessive drama.

Sorry you're having a hard time. Good luck.
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Old 09-03-2010, 02:48 PM
 
Location: My Private Island
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The problem is if you didn't agree upon it before you let him move in that room/board/food/etc. would be considered as payment toward the debt you owe him, then legally, you can't do it. Although it doesn't hurt to give it a try and see how he responds.

Also, you have a situation in which you have allowed him to reside with you and if he really wanted to get nasty, he could force you to go through the courts to evict him from your home.

I would suggest talking with him and telling him the situation is just not working out. Pay him whatever you can towards the debt and document it.

Good luck!
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I think I would give him what you can afford and lay it out on paper that his living with you covers the rest if it looks like a fair exchange. If his living expenses were more than $1,000 by your calculation, I'd still give him a portion in cash to get rid of him. Make sure he signs off on it so he can't bring the loan up in the future without you being able to refute it.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Full Time: N.NJ Part Time: S.CA, ID
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Tell him to "pack his ****".

You're not obligated to let him stay there just because you owe him money.

Ask him nicely to leave. If he doesn't, take up the illegal drug use up with law enforcement. Have him cited for trespassing (may be tough with eviction law).

If he doesn't leave nicely on first request, have him sue you for the $1k.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:35 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Pay him what you can and kick him out. No, you can't deduct living expenses since you didn't agree to it in advance. You can ask, but he can rightfully say no. Chalk it all up to a lessons learned.
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Old 09-03-2010, 03:55 PM
 
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Do what you can to save up the balance owed, quietly, then hand him the money and show him the door.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:05 PM
 
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This guy living in your home and you owing him money are two separate issues. Did you tell him he could stay there for free? If so, renege the deal. Tell him you had no idea he intended to stay this long.

Tell him he has to pay rent to stay there. Make the rent amount big. That should encourage him to go. Also, give him a list of behaviors that will get him kicked out of the apartment, courtesy of the local law enforcement, if necessary. This list of behavior should also include not paying the rent. You need an agreement. Back charge him for the time he's been there if possible, but you guys didn't have an agreement for that so you may be stuck. You teach people how to treat you and right now your gf's brother thinks what he's doing is Okay, because you let him. Don't let him. Owing him money does not give him the right to treat you or his sister like crap.

Even if he doesn't agree to pay rent, each month tell him how much you don't owe him because he stays there. When the amount is paid off. KICK HIM OUT. If your gf doesn't agree, kick her out, too. This situation can turn disasterously worse if you don't handle it.
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Old 09-03-2010, 05:11 PM
 
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Yes, too bad you didn't agree on rent in the first place so you could be even by now.

I'd give him what you can - maybe he can get an apartment with it, and agree to pay the whole amount or another large portion by a certain date. Get that loan out of the picture.
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