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Your truth doesn't apply to everyone. While I like a dominant guy (if that's the right term), I also like someone who has some give. Note that I didn't say I want to make ALL the decisions.
You say common knowledge, but it's actually common belief....simply because it's not fact.
So, you would like a guy who comes up to you and says "uhhh ummm...i wanted to see fireworks tonight, but im not sure you would like that, Is there something else you would like to do, because ill definitely go for that". From my experience, almost no woman would and certainly wouldnt respect him as a man. we are tlaking first date here, not somehwere down the line when the two of you have been dating for awhile or are in a relationship. I think its perfectly healthy and reasonable, to let the woman change the plans or make plans all together if you have been seeing each other for some time.
So, you would like a guy who comes up to you and says "uhhh ummm...i wanted to see fireworks tonight, but im not sure you would like that, Is there something else you would like to do, because ill definitely go for that". From my experience, almost no woman would and certainly wouldnt respect him as a man. we are tlaking first date here, not somehwere down the line when the two of you have been dating for awhile or are in a relationship. I think its perfectly healthy and reasonable, to let the woman change the plans or make plans all together if you have been seeing each other for some time.
Of course not, but if he asked, "there are fireworks down at the pier tonight; would you like to go?" I would absolutely say yes. How is that not respectable?
You act as though the guy has to sound like a bumbling idiot.
You're going to extremes to make your point, but there is middle ground between telling a woman what your date will entail and the scenario you proposed above. Confidence vs cockiness, my friend.
Of course not, but if he asked, "there are fireworks down at the pier tonight; would you like to go?" I would absolutely say yes. How is that not respectable?
You act as though the guy has to sound like a bumbling idiot.
You're going to extremes to make your point, but there is middle ground between telling a woman what your date will entail and the scenario you proposed above. Confidence vs cockiness, my friend.
So, you are agreeing with me then? You made it seem like you want input into making the plans and what i got out of that, is that a man should ask you what you want to do on your date. If he asks you to go to see fireworks and you go along with it, wouldnt that back my stance?
So, you are agreeing with me then? You made it seem like you want input into making the plans and what i got out of that, is that a man should ask you what you want to do on your date. If he asks you to go to see fireworks and you go along with it, wouldnt that back my stance?
Well, he is asking me if I want to go to see fireworks. I guess I should have included an option to do something else as well.
Maybe I am misunderstanding you. To me, it sounds like you are not open to a woman making an alternate suggestion. In my scenario, there's an option for me to say, "I'd love to go with you, but can we __________ instead/too?" (I love fireworks, so I wouldn't say that, but if he were suggesting a movie or something, I might ask if we can see something different. You get my drift.)
Basically, if she didn't want to do what you suggested, but wanted to see you, would you be opem to her suggesting something?
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