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Old 10-23-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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Has there ever been an instance where you have hooked up with someone or had spontaneous sex when you were drunk when there was a high likelihood that you would not have hooked up if you were sober?

How often does this occur in the aggregate? Who do you blame? Is is possible that someone will use drinking as an excuse instead of admitting that they want sex because society would look down on them?

"We were drinking at a bar, he took me home to look at his vacation pictures and it 'just happened.'"?


How often have you heard something along these lines?

I mostly do daytime pickups presently. If a woman wants to enter into a casual relationship with me or share sex with me, I want her to be a willing participant and have the full extent of her judgment available to her.

In my mind, I think of all the people who "need" alcohol in order for casual sex or a ONS to take place, and ask myself, why?


When I was a freshman in college, my roommate and I had a "competition" to see who could sleep with the most amount of women. He won, but I had a MUCH better reputation. People would sneak into his side of the dorm and break his stuff, pour flour all over his side of the room, he got into fights, and people generally hated him. I on the other hand was revered as a gentleman of stature. My stuff was never messed with, and no one ever wanted to harm me.

In general, I am trying to make sense of why someone would need alcohol to participate in casual sex, and why two people meeting under the same circumstances minus the alcohol would result in a missed opportunity for intimacy, companionship, and more.

*Casual sex here is defined as consensual sex outside of the confines of an exclusive, LTR relationship.

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Old 10-23-2013, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Indiana
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Has there ever been an instance where you have hooked up with someone or had spontaneous sex when you were drunk when there was a high likelihood that you would not have hooked up if you were sober?

How often does this occur in the aggregate? Who do you blame? Is is possible that someone will use drinking as an excuse instead of admitting that they want sex because society would look down on them?

"We were drinking at a bar, he took me home to look at his vacation pictures and it 'just happened.'"?


How often have you heard something along these lines?

I mostly do daytime pickups presently. If a woman wants to enter into a casual relationship with me or share sex with me, I want her to be a willing participant and have the full extent of her judgment available to her.

In my mind, I think of all the people who "need" alcohol in order for casual sex or a ONS to take place, and ask myself, why?


When I was a freshman in college, my roommate and I had a "competition" to see who could sleep with the most amount of women. He won, but I had a MUCH better reputation. People would sneak into his side of the dorm and break his stuff, pour flour all over his side of the room, he got into fights, and people generally hated him. I on the other hand was revered as a gentleman of stature. My stuff was never messed with, and no one ever wanted to harm me.

In general, I am trying to make sense of why someone would need alcohol to participate in casual sex, and why two people meeting under the same circumstances minus the alcohol would result in a missed opportunity for intimacy, companionship, and more.
This is a simple thing that I just realized myself. Some guys want sex and they don't care if the girl does. That's not news. Although they are not rapists they really don't care if she wants to be part of it or not as long as its legal and he got laid. You sound like you're more like me and you don't really see the point in that, that's a lot of work to essentially masturbate.

It also seems like most women don't want to be part of that, and I don't blame them, and so they need to be drunk first to do that.
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:32 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Has there ever been an instance where you have hooked up with someone or had spontaneous sex when you were drunk when there was a high likelihood that you would not have hooked up if you were sober?

I cannot and will not believe such immoral behaviour occurs!

(Real answer: reduced inhibitions)
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Cincinnati near
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I think you are onto something. I am a scientist so I graphed the exact relationship between the two.
The dynamic between blood alcohol content and casual spontaneous sex-real_science.png
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Old 10-23-2013, 12:40 PM
 
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I think it has something to do with the bar scene culture. Anyone that is a regular in the bar scene accepts hook ups as 'kind of' normal behavior.
"OMG, did you see who I made out with last night! "
or
"Did you see the hottie I went home with last night ? "

Non-regulars perhaps look down on such behavior, but pretty much everyone knows what is going on.

I have stories from both sexes about some pretty insane sexual experiences over the years. Some people may frown upon such things. Usually the people that don't understand it reject the concept the most.
And then, there are the ones who may participate in such behaviors, but they hide it to almost everyone, all the while pretending to not partake in such events.

We all know that alcohol can affect and modify behavior, and it typically lowers ones' inhibitions.
Over the years, IME i would say people typically partake in such events simply to blow off steam and have fun every now and then. Whether or not someone decides to be political about it is up to them.

Everyone has needs, and alcohol can certainly help people be bold enough to take the chance to get what they want when they are drunk. But while sober they may be too timid, reserved, anxiety ridden, or whatever. (and typcially, especially when younger, alcohol can certainly lower ones standards to hook up with someone they would never normally consider)

the above sentence pretty much IMO answers the OP's final question:
In general, I am trying to make sense of why someone would need alcohol to participate in casual sex, and why two people meeting under the same circumstances minus the alcohol would result in a missed opportunity for intimacy, companionship, and more
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:10 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I think you are onto something. I am a scientist so I graphed the exact relationship between the two.
Attachment 119901
I've also observed this phenomena as well ... perhaps we can do a joint research paper:

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Old 10-23-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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When I was a freshman in college, my roommate and I had a "competition" to
see who could sleep with the most amount of women.





I was revered as a gentleman of stature.
I ask myself, why?
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:26 PM
 
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It just loosens inhibitions that's all.

It doesn't for me make women more attractive. As a matter of fact, I would say that alcohol consumption for men at least is proportional to loss of sex drive. And this is not just a rumor. It's was well explained to me by a 'professional' that I can't discuss in more detail here.

So, if I'm bombed out of my mind, even Kate Upton might not be able to get it up.

FYI, when I was in college, a football player lived in my dorm, and he used to invite women in and they'd just have sex, there and then. Sober. During the day. He had sex with a TON of women. Some other good looking guys got a lot of women too, but not like him.
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Old 10-23-2013, 02:28 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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Sex drive and sexual performance are two different things, unfortunately (uhh, so I heard!)
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Old 10-23-2013, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Terra
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This happens a lot to guys. It's called "hogging".
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