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Old 01-06-2014, 03:08 PM
 
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Pffft. Hardly. It's because they're bad investments, period. Your mocking tone belies your projection.
Examples as to why we're a bad investment? Instead of blanket statements, are you able to be a little more descriptive? As you've retorted, your mocking tone belies your projection towards an insecurity...

(FYI this is coming from a 30 something who is: child-free, disease-free, drama-free, debt-free and pet free.)
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:49 PM
 
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Examples as to why we're a bad investment? Instead of blanket statements, are you able to be a little more descriptive? As you've retorted, your mocking tone belies your projection towards an insecurity...

(FYI this is coming from a 30 something who is: child-free, disease-free, drama-free, debt-free and pet free.)

Because a man's resources to attract and date a woman are limited. I know most women think dating is free, since for the most part, the man spends the money, but the fact remains that dating is not free...for men that is. The simple fact that you are 30-something, and that many men have most likely thrown some of their resources your way, and for one reason or another, you've rebuffed all of them.

This can mean one of two things:

1. Your standards are very, very high, which is fine, but any rational man would not throw his limited resources at a long shot.

2. You're not actually looking for marriage.

Either way, bad investment.
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:59 PM
 
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My fiance said the same thing. I myself am not forty yet, but I suspect I'll feel the same way. He said that turning forty for him was a time to look at his life, what he's accomplished, and feel really confident and like he doesn't owe anybody an explanations. He said, for him, the combination of accomplishment and life's experiences by that point suddenly translated into a huge level of self-assurance he hadn't always felt earlier in life. No more insecurities or giving a crap about what others think, which is super freeing.
^^^THIS^^^a million times this^^^^

Thanks, Tabula. This is exactly it. I'm going to put your post in my journal.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:04 PM
 
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Because a man's resources to attract and date a woman are limited.
This is your personal insecurity coming out...


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I know most women think dating is free, since for the most part, the man spends the money, but the fact remains that dating is not free...for men that is.
A woman in her 30's has come to realize that nothing in life is free.


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The simple fact that you are 30-something, and that many men have most likely thrown some of their resources your way, and for one reason or another, you've rebuffed all of them.
All of them? How do you know my dating style and or relationships? Upon first meeting, I never let a guy buy me dinner and most of the time I order a club soda. I always offer to pay, even if it's leaving a tip. So, you're wrong on those counts.

By your logic, any man who offers to buy me a beer, I need to sleep with him and immediately begin a serious long term relationship?!


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This can mean one of two things:

1. Your standards are very, very high, which is fine, but any rational man would not throw his limited resources at a long shot.

2. You're not actually looking for marriage.

Either way, bad investment.

My last relationship ended with him being a player and cheating. That makes me have high standards?

I am actually looking for marriage and/or long term relationship.

Very bad generalizations towards all 30 year olds...
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:31 PM
 
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Has nothing to do with insecurity, though you seem very eager to play that card. Projection strikes again. Your last relationship can be filed under reason 2. You're chasing the almighty tingle. Your bad.

Good luck finding what you're looking for, it won't be from any man who's got half a brain. Why would I, or any other man pay foe what you've probably given to 3 dozen others for free?

Yes, it is a generalization. There are exceptions, but not enough for a lot of smart guys to want to play the odds. Not when there are better options available.
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Old 01-06-2014, 04:44 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Because a man's resources to attract and date a woman are limited. I know most women think dating is free, since for the most part, the man spends the money, but the fact remains that dating is not free...for men that is. The simple fact that you are 30-something, and that many men have most likely thrown some of their resources your way, and for one reason or another, you've rebuffed all of them.

This can mean one of two things:

1. Your standards are very, very high, which is fine, but any rational man would not throw his limited resources at a long shot.

2. You're not actually looking for marriage.

Either way, bad investment.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you don't date much.
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Old 01-06-2014, 05:05 PM
 
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Because a man's resources to attract and date a woman are limited. I know most women think dating is free, since for the most part, the man spends the money, but the fact remains that dating is not free...for men that is. The simple fact that you are 30-something, and that many men have most likely thrown some of their resources your way, and for one reason or another, you've rebuffed all of them.

This can mean one of two things:

1. Your standards are very, very high, which is fine, but any rational man would not throw his limited resources at a long shot.

2. You're not actually looking for marriage.


Either way, bad investment.
Why didn't you just say that women over 30 will become unattractive faster than younger women? That would've made more sense to me than the reasoning you came up with.
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Old 01-07-2014, 02:19 AM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted by AmericanBannedStand View Post
Because a man's resources to attract and date a woman are limited. I know most women think dating is free, since for the most part, the man spends the money, but the fact remains that dating is not free...for men that is. The simple fact that you are 30-something, and that many men have most likely thrown some of their resources your way, and for one reason or another, you've rebuffed all of them.

This can mean one of two things:

1. Your standards are very, very high, which is fine, but any rational man would not throw his limited resources at a long shot.

2. You're not actually looking for marriage.

Either way, bad investment.
Just curious, what do you propose? Most women under 25 seem to be quite immature. That is the way of the modern American culture. Most (again, I'm generalizing) seem to come around at the age of 30. Unless they live in SF area. Then it's more like 40.

I'm super pissed here btw because you're making me defend women. And that's a big no no in my book!
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:10 AM
 
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Just curious, what do you propose? Most women under 25 seem to be quite immature. That is the way of the modern American culture. Most (again, I'm generalizing) seem to come around at the age of 30. Unless they live in SF area. Then it's more like 40.

I'm super pissed here btw because you're making me defend women. And that's a big no no in my book!

It's not my job to propose solutions, I'm simply making observations. The fact that women "come around" way too late is not my problem, or yours.

But in my reasoned opinion, there are no solutions. The marketplace is too out of whack to be corrected by people of either sex acting in one way or another. It's going to take a catastrophe and for something new to rise from the ashes.

Take for example, the current student loan debt that stands at $1 Trillion (!!!) and rising. This is a bubble that must pop, as it will never be paid back. The economic crisis that will be caused by this will make the housing bubble look like a picnic. America is leveraged on fake money to the point now that it's irrecoverable.

Before the shrieking harpies chime in and start saying, "you just want women back in a subservient position and blah blah blah!!!", no that's not the case at all. I want government, parents and white knights to stop subsidizing the bad choices of women as they've been doing for the past 50 or so years.
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Old 01-07-2014, 06:11 AM
 
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess you don't date much.
You're correct, I do not. I refuse to participate in a broken system.
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