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I'm wondering, for you guys who have been turned down rudely, were these women giving you the "go ahead" signals? Were they making eye contact, smiling, flirting, etc, and then shut you down?
I have enough life experience to know that only certain guys get signals. The rest of us are pretty much going to have to be really awesome in other ways to pull off a cold approach.
"go ahead" signals are great for teh guys that get them, but there are a lot of guys that pretty much NEVER get those signals, and yet we are still told to "keep trying", so on and so forth. The smart ones wise up and learn to meet women through other avenues. Friends, social gatherings, meet ups, whatever.
Guys get rejected. If a guy who has less going on tries to be aggressive, he'll get rejected a lot. That's all there is to it.
Are you trying to say that cruelty should be rightly inflicted on men who misread signals and try to approach women who have no interest? Because, re-read your posts, that sounds like exactly what you are trying to say.
There is no such thing as getting a cue to approach a girl. However, when you're talking to them it's pretty easy to engage how interested they are in talking to you.
How about never ? I have asked a lot of woman out and a female never was rude or anything like that. BTW I never really been turned downed by a female before.
Woman the i have meet that had BF or woman meet in school or out and about say if i wanted a GF all i have to do is ask.
I have had other women/female friends tell me, "OMG JJS, she wants you what are you doing?"
And they were dead wrong. Signals is just a way throw the fault of rejection back on the man. Guys get rejected. That's all there is to it.
It's not garbage. The thing is that it's generally best to observe body language to determine if we're NOT interested, not if we are. Because, yeah, a lot of men seem to misjudge that we're eyeing them when we're totally not. It's hard to misread someone who's politely giving you the "go away" signals, though (turning her body away, crossing her arms, etc).
Also, if your female friends keep leading you astray, stop following their advice. You clearly hang out with people who don't know what they're talking about. And maybe try pursuing women with whom you've gotten to know through an activity or hobby rather than cold approaching women at bars or clubs.
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