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Old 04-26-2014, 11:38 AM
 
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The culture encourages guys to not take no for and answer and to deal with rejection like a punk instead of a well adjusted person and just move on.
OK, that's scary.
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The culture encourages a disrespect of women as human beings and makes their life not as equivalent as a man's life.
Really? Can you give an example?
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The culture encourages bitterness as this article shows can lead to extreme things.
hm...maybe some aspects of it do encourage bitterness and anger. Or maybe it's just that it attracts bitter and angry guys? Or maybe it's the combination of PUA culture and the MRA (men's rights) movement?

Food for thought. You really think there's a connection?

 
Old 04-26-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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All I have to say is that many kids these days are just screwed in the head. Blame the internet, it encourages whacked ideas and self absorbed behaviours in the teetering on the edge of sanity types.

True. But this goes back to what I said on the now-defunct thread about Carl and Lilly, about how kids are not being taught how to accept defeat gracefully, learn from it, and use it to better themselves.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 12:20 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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Aggressive killers are not nice.
But passive killers are ok?
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:23 PM
 
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What does this have to do with "nice guy/PUA culture", OP?
Nothing. PUA use words and gestures to win over females. Not kill them. The guy is a loser of the highest order.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 12:25 PM
 
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But passive killers are ok?
Being a passive killer is easier. Hire a hitman. You didnt kill the person...u just told someone else to they didnt really have to listen to u lol
 
Old 04-26-2014, 12:36 PM
 
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I vaguely recall in one of my posts saying that this increasing sense of isolation that non-desirable guys are beginning to experience would lead to outbursts of violence against girls such as this. The Internet most likely plays a part: non-desirable guys turning more and more to Internet porn to relieve themselves; starting to hate themselves for having to resort to such behavior they feel is immoral, indecent, embarrassing, even perverted; the guilt messing with their heads to such a degree that they start to fantasize about punishing girls in general and especially those in particular who reject them, thus, in their minds forcing them into such embarrassing behaviors; the fantasies playing out in their minds to such a degree that it's just a step away from them acting out these fantasies; voila, we see more and more of these violent, mass murders perpetrated in schools by guys pushed over the edge. Notice they are all being done by guys.

Is this surprising?

No, not when you analyze that guys act, girls react and then the rejected guys act out.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 12:38 PM
 
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I wouldn't doubt anything like this has happened.....the world is a complete mess.
 
Old 04-26-2014, 12:55 PM
 
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Being a passive killer is easier. Hire a hitman. You didnt kill the person...u just told someone else to they didnt really have to listen to u lol


Honestly, from reading your posts it seems you are drunk all the time. It's like your trying to be witty and insightful but epically fail.
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Old 04-26-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: mainland but born oahu
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The culture encourages guys to not take no for and answer and to deal with rejection like a punk instead of a well adjusted person and just move on. The culture encourages a disrespect of women as human beings and makes their life not as equivalent as a man's life. The culture encourages bitterness as this article shows can lead to extreme things.
Lets be more balanced ok whiteknight lol. The culture encourages a disrespect of people as human beings. Our culture teaches us to focus on superficial things to determine the value of someone or his/her worthiness. We disrespect our sisters and brothers when we do this. Sometimes our standards can be so high based on our value systems, which culture or society tells us what is appropriate or what to strive for.

I don't encourage violence period, but its understandable that some of our young people have no value in themselves because no one else values them. What comes first, self love or the love from others
 
Old 04-26-2014, 01:20 PM
 
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to teach us love of self. Superficual value systems never really determines what someone is inside. Some of those kids we call losers or undesirable are really sometimes bigger winners then those who have everything but never had to overcome any obstacles.

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