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Old 07-03-2014, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Up above the world so high!
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AGAIN, the fact you agreed with this post, saying women are boring and do not have hobbies, and that they are a liability.

I give up on women

That's why I find your story hard to believe, that you agree with a hard-line, generalizing attitude like this...and suddenly you respect women because your uncle said you should. Now you say you've respected women for a while, except not really because you just essentially called them all boring.

It's OK if you changed your mind on women (actually it is great), but don't pretend that you haven't posted kind of misogynistic and generalizing stuff before.
I see him saying he's "seen the light" and the error of his ways

We should all celebrate that.
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Old 07-03-2014, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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AGAIN, the fact you agreed with this post, saying women are boring and do not have hobbies, and that they are a liability.

I give up on women

That's why I find your story hard to believe, that you agree with a hard-line, generalizing attitude like this...and suddenly you respect women because your uncle said you should. Now you say you've respected women for a while, except not really because you just essentially called them all boring.

It's OK if you changed your mind on women (actually it is great), but don't pretend that you haven't posted kind of misogynistic and generalizing stuff before.
I admit I have done that. But I was wrong for saying those things.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:00 PM
 
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I was in a very bitter place at the time I said that. Since then, I have been in therapy and seen the error in my ways and how I dealt with women in the past.
If you were in a very bitter place at the time then it seems you were lying when you said that you were appreciating women way before.

If you've seen the error of your ways then how come your response is that the user is giving your grief, you were appreciating women way before, and "I've done nothing wrong." I would imagine you would acknowledge your words and state something akin to 'yes I said that and I was wrong about it.'

* Edit: You've done just that though it's off to me that this wasn't your initial response. Bit curious as to how come your initial response was it's giving you grief and "I've done nothing wrong" that a user is doubting your words based on your prior words.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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If you were in a very bitter place at the time then it seems you were lying when you said that you were appreciating women way before.

If you've seen the error of your ways then how come your response is that the user is giving your grief, you were appreciating women way before, and "I've done nothing wrong." I would imagine you would acknowledge your words and state something akin to 'yes I said that and I was wrong about it.'

* Edit: You've done just that though it's off to me that this wasn't your initial response. Bit curious as to how come your initial response was it's giving you grief and "I've done nothing wrong" that a user is doubting your words based on your prior words.
That was then I am a brand new person now. I have changed for the better. You don't have to believe me, but I have.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:13 PM
 
Location: The Great West
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I admit I have done that. But I was wrong for saying those things.


Good, that is really what I was wondering about. It's not like I like to go around and call people out around here, but I do sometimes when I see a possible discrepancy and I feel it should be addressed.

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If you were in a very bitter place at the time then it seems you were lying when you said that you were appreciating women way before.

If you've seen the error of your ways then how come your response is that the user is giving your grief, you were appreciating women way before, and "I've done nothing wrong." I would imagine you would acknowledge your words and state something akin to 'yes I said that and I was wrong about it.'

* Edit: You've done just that though it's off to me that this wasn't your initial response. Bit curious as to how come your initial response was it's giving you grief and "I've done nothing wrong" that a user is doubting your words based on your prior words.
I agree that the timeline does seem off, though it could probably be explained by him being embarrassed that he said it, or maybe forgetting he said it. I do know 49ersfan has a girlfriend now whereas he didn't before so my guess is that the attitude on women may be a bit of a 'work in progress' for him (which is fine).

Anyway, I do want to address the topic by saying that I do think people can be happy single. There is a difference between being a bachelor who has dated around but never settled, and a person who has never been on a date. I think only asexual people are satisfied with never going on a date, because if you aren't asexual, you still have sexual urges even if you swear off dating.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:14 PM
 
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That was then I am a brand new person now. I have changed for the better. You don't have to believe me, but I have.
Oh so it seems you don't want you past actions/words you did 6 days ago associated with you so the initial response is denial "I've done nothing wrong" and deflection "giving me grief".

Cool that you think you've changed and you think you're a brand new person.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Jupiter
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Oh so it seems you don't want you past actions/words you did 6 days ago associated with you so the initial response is denial "I've done nothing wrong" and deflection "giving me grief".

Cool that you think you've changed and you think you're a brand new person.
I am still in therapy. While I have gained some experience with women, I'm still pretty inexperienced as well.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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I just think it's sad that someone had to die for you to realize that you should treat women with respect.

Gender has nothing to do with whether a person should be treated with respect or not.
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:23 PM
 
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I am still in therapy. While I have gained some experience with women, I'm still pretty inexperienced as well.
Again cool that you think you've changed and you think you're a brand new person.

Different views it seems though as I don't see agreeing that 'women don't offer anything remotely useful' a matter of inexperience but possibly misogyny, bitterness, resentment, hatred, envy, jealousy, etc. So does your therapist(s) claim such mindsets are due to your inexperience?
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Old 07-03-2014, 06:25 PM
 
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Anyway, I do want to address the topic by saying that I do think people can be happy single. There is a difference between being a bachelor who has dated around but never settled, and a person who has never been on a date. I think only asexual people are satisfied with never going on a date, because if you aren't asexual, you still have sexual urges even if you swear off dating.
Bit curious as to why you seem to think sexual urges can't be handled without dating such as with masturbation. I'm not asexual however I have pretty much no interest in sex considering the female orgasm gap so to me it's masturbation > sex anytime.
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