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I don't think either example is coming on too strong but rather inappropriate for someone you don't know.
Would you want a first date with a stranger to be in an environment of people they know and are comfortable with, and you know no one including your own date. At what point are you getting to know your date at a venue with your friends, celebrating someone else's relationship milestone?
A first date at an elaborate and expensive restaurant strikes me as showing off and trying to buy affection. I would not want to be beholden to someone because they spent a lot of money on the date, nor would I want someone choosing an expensive place where I'm paying for half of something I didn't want to spend so much money on. Unless you travel in circles where expensive restaurants are pocket change, most people would go on a rare occasion, because that's what makes it special.
Neither of these scenarios is sweet and romantic, they both have a layer of pressure to them that no first date needs.
Agree with every word. The best first dates should be low pressure and not ultra expensive.
Haven't had their fries in a while but when I went as a kid, I remembered their fries were soggy and covered in grease. Hard to beat Mcnuggets though!
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