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Old 09-11-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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Jesus as a Reincarnation of Horus



Jesus was referred to as the chief cornerstone (i.e., capstone) - a reference to an Egyptian pyramid. The chief cornerstone of the pyramid is same symbol for Horus, the Egyptian god and savior.

Like the Egyptian pharoah, Jesus was called a shepherd who rules the nations with a staff. Horus was a popular Egyptian god who was the son of Osiris and Isis. Osiris and Horus were both solar deities. Osiris was the setting sun, Horus the rising sun. Jesus is the rising Son and the morning star. The pharoah was considered to be an incarnation of Horus (also known as "Amen-Ra," the sun god). In the same way, Jesus is considered to be the incarnation of his heavenly Father. Horus was the lamb of God who took away the sins of the world. Horus had an adversary named "Set". Jesus' adversary was "Satan".

The story of Horus can be found in "The Egyptian Book of the Dead (also known as the "Papyrus of Ani") written over 3,000 years before the birth of Christ.

Identical Life Experiences.

It is written that both Horus and Jesus existed before their incarnations. Horus was born of the virgin Isis on December 25th in a cave/manger. Horus' birth was announced by a star in the East and attended by three wise men.

The infant Horus was carried out of Egypt to escape the wrath of Typhon. The infant Jesus was carried into Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod. Concerning the infant Jesus, the New Testament states the following prophecy: "Out of Egypt have I called my son." (Matt. 2:15)

He was a child teacher in the temple and was baptized by Anup the Baptizer when he was thirty years old.
He had twelve disciples and performed miracles such as feeding bread to the multitude and walking on water. He raised one man, El-Azar-us, from the dead.
He transfigured on a mount. He also had titles such as the "way, the truth, the light, the Messiah, God's anointed Son, the Son of Man, the good shepherd, the lamb of God, the Word, the Morning Star, the light of the world.
]He was "the Fisher," and was associated with the lamb, lion and fish ("Ichthys").
Horus's personal epithet was "Iusa," the "ever-becoming son" of "Ptah," the "Father." Horus was called "KRST," or "Anointed One. He was crucified, buried in a tomb and resurrected.

The adoration of the Virgin and Child is connected with both the adoration of Isis and the infant Horus and the adoration of Mary and infant Jesus. In the catacombs at Rome are pictures of the baby Horus being held by the virgin mother Isis, the original "Madonna and Child."

Concerning the writing of the Gnostics, C. W. King, a noted English author, says: "To this period belongs a beautiful sard in my collection, representing Serapis,...whilst before him stands Isis, holding in one hand the sistrum, in the other a wheatsheaf, with the legend: 'Immaculate is our lady Isis,' the very term applied afterwards to that personage who succeeded to her form, her symbols, rites, and ceremonies" (Gnostics and Their Remains, p. 71).

Osiris, Isis, and Horus are the principal trinity of the Egyptian religions. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Holy Spirit is the Christian trinity.
Dr. Inman affirms the Egyptian roots of the Christian trinity "The Christian trinity is of Egyptian origin, and is as surely a pagan doctrine as the belief in heaven and hell, the existence of a devil, of archangels, angels, spirits and saints, martyrs and virgins, intercessors in heaven, gods and demigods, and other forms of faith which deface the greater part of modern religions" (Ancient Pagan and Modem Christian Symbolism, p. 13)

Dr. Draper says: "For thirty centuries the Egyptians had been familiar with the conception of a triune God. There was hardly a city of any note without its particular triads. Here it was Amum, Maut, and Khonso; there Osiris, Isis, and Horus" (Intellectual Development, Vol. I, p. 191).

Dr. Draper stated: "Views of the Trinity, in accordance with Egyptian tradition, were established. Not only was the adoration of Isis under a new name restored, but even her image standing on the crescent moon reappeared. The well-known effigy of that goddess, with the infant Horus in her arms, has descended to our days in the beautiful artistic creations of the Madonna and Child." (Conflict, p. 48).

Mrs. Besant believes that Christianity has its main roots in Egypt: "It grew out of Egypt; its gospels came from thence [Alexandria]; its ceremonies were learned there; its Virgin is Isis; its Christ, Osiris and Horus."

There are two stories connected with Horus that is analogous to stories found in the Old Testament. The hiding of the infant Horus in a marsh by his mother undoubtedly parallels the story of the hiding of the infant Moses in a marsh by his mother. When Horus died, Isis implored Ra, the sun, to restore him to life. Ra stopped his ship in mid-heaven and sent down Thoth, the moon, to bring him back to life. The stopping of the sun and moon by Isis recalls the myth of the stopping of the sun and moon by Joshua.

Osiris, I am your son, come to glorify your soul, and to give you even more power." - Horus, (Book of the Dead, Ch. 173)

Now is the Son of Man glorified and God is glorified in him. If God is glorified in him, God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once." -Jesus, (John 13:31-32

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Old 09-11-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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Default Evolutionof the spiritual fossil record

These similarities are legion . . . trust me. Being surprised or confused by them makes as little sense as being surprised that the skull, leg bones and pelvis of australopithecus afarensis are similar to ours (though more primitive)!! Carnal minds focused on the evolution of physical structures coded in the DNA . . . seem not to understand that there will be similar DNA coded patterns for the spiritual cognitive structures of human thought. DNA contains the codes and designs of God . . . subject to the evolutionary processes guided by His laws.
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Old 09-11-2010, 04:19 PM
 
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These similarities are legion . . . trust me. Being surprised or confused by them makes as little sense as being surprised that the skull, leg bones and pelvis of australopithecus afarensis are similar to ours (though more primitive)!! Carnal minds focused on the evolution of physical structures coded in the DNA . . . seem not to understand that there will be similar DNA coded patterns for the spiritual cognitive structures of human thought. DNA contains the codes and designs of God . . . subject to the evolutionary processes guided by His laws.
Are you talking about god's DNA or ancient man's?

Did Hey Zeus hang on a cross and slowly bleed to death then show up two days later fit as a fiddle or not?
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Old 09-11-2010, 04:45 PM
 
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Are you talking about god's DNA or ancient man's?

Did Hey Zeus hang on a cross and slowly bleed to death then show up two days later fit as a fiddle or not?

To my knowledge, so such person ever has.


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I mentioned this a while back , how Christianity borrowed heavily from Egyptian mythology. It was due not only in part to the proximity of Israel to Egypt, but also the common enemy of Roman occupation that would show how such a mythological movement could flourish. Jews wanted so badly for a military leader to come as prophecied by ancient tribesman, the "Messiah" who would lead and deliver them to freedom.
Interesting how many "Messiaihs" there were at the time, how the "Messiah" myth evolved over a hundred+ years time, and how much of Egyptian and Pagan mythology it incorporated and assimilated along the way.
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Old 09-11-2010, 10:24 PM
 
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Are you talking about god's DNA or ancient man's?

Did Hey Zeus hang on a cross and slowly bleed to death then show up two days later fit as a fiddle or not?
Spiritual reality is different from but related to physical reality only tangentially . . . because it exist within our consciousness. The creator of the DNA codes and the sequences that manifest in both the physical AND the spiritual . . . is God, period. He lets the processes and laws He set in place evolve those sequences for both physical and spiritual structures . . . not forcing them to occur.

What is produced in consciousness has spiritual reality in consciousness. Which "stories" or "histories" resonate as truth in human consciousness is subject to the potential coded structures of truth that God desires us to understand. The closer a cognitive construct comes to the underlying true structure . . . the more it resonates and the more real it is. I'm thinking 2000+ years is a long enough resonant period to be considered the real deal . . . especially given the history of similar but more primitive resonant versions at far less sophisticated and pure agape love forms. Strip away the surface differences in all those traditions or resonant cognitive structures that have endured . . . and they are just too similar to be nonsense.
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Old 09-12-2010, 02:41 AM
 
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Spiritual reality is different from but related to physical reality only tangentially . . . because it exist within our consciousness. The creator of the DNA codes and the sequences that manifest in both the physical AND the spiritual . . . is God, period. He lets the processes and laws He set in place evolve those sequences for both physical and spiritual structures . . . not forcing them to occur.

What is produced in consciousness has spiritual reality in consciousness. Which "stories" or "histories" resonate as truth in human consciousness is subject to the potential coded structures of truth that God desires us to understand. The closer a cognitive construct comes to the underlying true structure . . . the more it resonates and the more real it is. I'm thinking 2000+ years is a long enough resonant period to be considered the real deal . . . especially given the history of similar but more primitive resonant versions at far less sophisticated and pure agape love forms. Strip away the surface differences in all those traditions or resonant cognitive structures that have endured . . . and they are just too similar to be nonsense.
What the F are you talking about?

This guy has already broken it down in the link below so, no need for me to repeat it.

http://jdstone.org/cr/files/mithraschristianity.html
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Old 09-12-2010, 03:44 AM
 
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This is actually a post of good points.

(1) there are similarities between the Gospel story and the story of Horus.

(2) (in the last link) there are similarities between the Gospel story and the story of Mithras.

(3) Mystic makes the good point that such things are encoded in our DNA.

Shorn of the Creationist stuff about finding fingerprints of a planning intelligence in the DNA (evolution is the mechanism) this is a good point - there are similarities in a lot of religious thought, not because of some God - given understanding but because there is some evolved need for religion.

Of course, one could point out the differences. Zeus was not nailed to a cross. Even Osiris, who rose from the dead was not nailed to a cross. That is something peculiar to Christianity and is therefore, likely to be true, though the resurrection, being found in a lot of other religions, including Pharisee Judaism, is not.
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Old 09-12-2010, 08:22 AM
 
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(3) Mystic makes the good point that such things are encoded in our DNA.
No...this is not a "good point" - it is simply an excuse to turn a blind eye to the fact that Christianity is simply a plagiarized and bastardized version of older religious mythologies.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:51 AM
 
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This is actually a post of good points.

(1) there are similarities between the Gospel story and the story of Horus.

(2) (in the last link) there are similarities between the Gospel story and the story of Mithras.

(3) Mystic makes the good point that such things are encoded in our DNA.

Shorn of the Creationist stuff about finding fingerprints of a planning intelligence in the DNA (evolution is the mechanism) this is a good point - there are similarities in a lot of religious thought, not because of some God - given understanding but because there is some evolved need for religion.

Of course, one could point out the differences. Zeus was not nailed to a cross. Even Osiris, who rose from the dead was not nailed to a cross. That is something peculiar to Christianity and is therefore, likely to be true, though the resurrection, being found in a lot of other religions, including Pharisee Judaism, is not.
Just as I write you off as a C34 anti-clone in another thread . . . you post this. Still firm in your non-scientific "No God" view . . . but open-minded enough to see the logic of underlying structure in both the physical AND the cognitive.
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:20 AM
 
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Read some Joseph Campbell. You'll see comparisions on the Jesus story with nearly all cultures. That's because the Jesus myth follows human archetype story patterns that exist because they effectively "ring" with people's real life hopes, desires and fears.
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