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Martin Dugard did all the research for the book in the Holy Land then O'Reilly put it together in a good, readable novel type of book. Just like his other books on people.
More people are talking about Jesus now and are curious so that is a good thing.
First, as background, he is a devout Catholic and feels the Holy Spirit inspred him writing
this book.
The reason I'm posting is bec he is not the first one that has said, "Jesus never
said, Abba Abba, why have You forsaken me?"
I mean haven't you thought how could God have abandoned him?
It never computed to me.
Mr. O'Riley doesn't care what was added to the Bible....he is very clear....the
Romans wanted Jesus to die fast bec of the crowd...they did not give him the usual
"butt rest"...as you may know ...you die of suffication.
As I have heard before...no one would have been close enough to ever
hear him....even if he could have whispered it...which that alone is doubtful...
because of the horrible crush of his lungs, etc.
Comments. What do ya think of Bill, that's ok, too.
Wow, and here this ex-Christian (or just ex-Jesus-fan if no true Scotsman fallacy is applied) thought Jesus was supposed to be quoting Jewish scripture (the book of Job or maybe a Psalm) when he said that in the cross for insurrectionists. The wipings were likely for runaway criminals, I believe. I mean the Jews were (as all ancient religions that lost battles) abandoned by their god for their sins. I think God abandoned Adam and Eve. But when Jesus chilled with Satan, I'm guessing ywhw didn't abandon him there and at the cross did he not recall the book of Job? YHWH allowed Satan to kill (was complacent in the murder of) Job's wifes, children, and animals. Was ywhw supposed to interfere in the free-will of the Romans trying to keep the status quo as he did against the free will of the Egyptians doing the same? I've never understood why people expect illogical concepts like "ubbernatual" to maintain some logic in action, decision, and veracity.
Wow! Well, good for you. For me, however, since I finally dropped God from my life at about age 25, I've never felt more free, more capable of entertaining my own thoughts without guilt or class separation, and never more capable of handling anything that comes along!
And why?? Because I am not under any mandate nor threat of HELL!!!! (<gasp!>). But if you must, have that in your life, pcamps, you go ahead and enjoy such strictured "guidance", which places you in that large and less-well-educated social cohort of spiritually dependent people.
PS: I'm in that other well-identified genetic species camp of "The UnDependent!"
theres a perfectly good atheist thread going on right now, maybe should go there. Since, we are in the less-well-educated social cohort of spirituality.
The lovely things things people can say while hiding behind the monitor & keyboard.
I will likely read it--but it does bug me when a guy like him decides he wants to go and decide what actually happened and he thinks he knows better than the guys that actually saw the events.
Wow, and here I thought Matt, Luke, John, and Mark were in hiding since they were technically aiding and abedding an insurrectionists. I didn't know they were hiding in the crowd remembering all the words that The dying rightful King of Israel was saying. Messiahs like King David were only called Sons of God because for one thing prophets like Jeremiah were called Sons of Men, and secondly because God was always in the sides of Messiahs like Emperor Cyrus of Persia and helped them win battles and didn't allow them to be killed by Enemies such as when the Philistines were protecting their land from the illegal-immigrant Jews. I didnt think all four criminals were within ear-shot of the soldiers punishing the, presumed guilty (as Jesus didn't deny the charges and insulted the governors hearing) until proven innocent, criminal.
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theres a perfectly good atheist thread going on right now, maybe should go there. Since, we are in the less-well-educated social cohort of spirituality.
The lovely things things people can say while hiding behind the monitor & keyboard.
You'd be amazed at the horrid things emotional people who are unwilling to discuss verbally are capable of doing. Here I though Jesus had ordered (or at least suggested considering what a pushover his whinnying slothful followers portray him) his followers to be as open as children and more well-versed and righteous than the priests of ancient Judaism.
You'd be amazed at the horrid things emotional people who are unwilling to discuss verbally are capable of doing. Here I though Jesus had ordered (or at least suggested considering what a pushover his whinnying slothful followers portray him) his followers to be as open as children and more well-versed and righteous than the priests of ancient Judaism.
your opinion or did real read that straight out of your Book Moderator cut: inappropriate language
I don't recognize O'Riley's credentials as a theologian. Ironically, he is, as you mention, a Catholic. I'm not aware that a Catholic layperson has the authority to determine what is or is not inspired or true in the Gospels.
My view of O'Riley doing textual criticism of the NT is the same I'll take regarding a guy like Richard Dawkins trying to do theology--it's not their field of expertise and they'll just look bad trying.
I didn't know richy Dawkins was trying to do theology, did he recently find a god or two? I thought he just hated the thing, but I guess it would be uncouth for a non-professional cook to criticize how a local burger joint does their things or what the workers belief about history and the divinity of their fries, especially if the local joint is part of a big well-established chain. Rotfl. I myself find theology quiet poetic. Religion I find silly, like looking for a list of rules of how to live your life in order to get the illogical things you want after death.
your opinion or did real read that straight out of your Book Moderator cut: Orphaned
No, both "suggestions" are in the gosple book given the titled "mathew" in the Second century. You'll probably find parallel in the other three Roman-Empire canonized books about Jesus' life/ministry. In fact, i belive he made both suggestions "requirements to enter the Kingdom."
The Guy (Bill O'Riley) has just found a way to make some money.
I do not begrudge him for that. While I personally think of making money through religions or religious topics is on a level of con-artistry, we must remember that the bottom line here is MONEY ♪ THE GREEN GREEN ALMIGHTY DOLLAR!!!! ♫
This would be more believable if he didn't make $20 mil a yr according to TV.
When you are in that bracket...it isn't the bottom line any longer.
I have plenty...and money isn't the bottom line any more, either.
He has plenty and knows it...he has other reasons for this book..money isn't everything
when you have as much as him.
There is a whole echelon of finer pleasures and purposes...when you already have that much.
...There is no greater death in my opinion than the feeling that comes from the assumption of being separated from God.
I have heard it said that hell is the eternal separation from the presence of God. Who really knows? However, it is something to ponder.
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