Did rainbows exist before "the flood"? Why or why not?

[Hannibal Flavius]

Originally Posted by SandyJet

There were Apple Trees in the Garden of Eden therefore it was raining.

As far as the bible is concerned, it never rained till the flood. There was a mist that fell upon the earth to water everything on the Earth. But it was no apple they ate, it was that they chose the wrong harvest and then tried to cloth themselves in the wrong harvest, and then Cain chose the wrong harvest, and then Ephraim chose the wrong harvests, and then Christianity chose the wrong harvests.


You receive a mark in your forehead and right arm IF you keep the harvest festivals of God. God promises to save those people who keep his harvest of Barley, wheat and fruit by sealing their forehead and right hand because they chose the Sabbaths of God over the wrong harvests of the nations.

[Shirina]

Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius

All these places tell the same story about the same man with variable differences.

They all speak of a universal flood, but because the story is found in so many places, what it in fact does, is to link all people back to a small region on Earth.

If the story links so many places separated by oceans and barriers, then the story must be based in truth, the truth being that the story brings all mankind back to a single family.

Yep, just like the story of Superman is known even in China even though he was invented in an office in NYC. So I guess that means we're all originally from NYC and Superman must be real because he is known worldwide.

[badlander]

Originally Posted by Hannibal Flavius

The Bible claims it never rained before the flood, I believe what the bible says even if it symbolizes a time that took place a million years ago

I don't need science to have an opinion, and I don't mind if you disagree with me either. The thing about the flood is that you can find the story of Noah in every country, the story was even found amongst natives in America. Noah has so many names in so many places and I can name very many of them from all over the world and each story compliments the other. They all show a great flood whereby one man was saved and perhaps his wife and sons and there 3 wives.

Just a couple names of Noah

Babylonian~Utnapishtim
Sumerian~ Ziusidru
Greek~Deucalion
Hindus~Manu
Chinese~Fah-he
Hawaiian~ Nu-u
Mexican Indians~Tezpi
Algonquins~Manabozho

All these places tell the same story about the same man with variable differences.

They all speak of a universal flood, but because the story is found in so many places, what it in fact does, is to link all people back to a small region on Earth.

If the story links so many places separated by oceans and barriers, then the story must be based in truth, the truth being that the story brings all mankind back to a single family.

One of the flood stories that had been referred in a creationist website was a west coast tribe describing a tsunami, Scientists using the native story and some other info were able to place the flood to the 17th century and a Japanese earthquake.

What I find interesting in the flood stories is not that many of them do not line up nor that there are more groups without floods than with floods but it seems so interesting that the only story these people remember from the past is the flood, not the Tower of Babel, not Noah and not how they got from Babel to where ever it is they lived but simply the flood. Not even remembering the God they had as they all ended up with new Gods. That should have been more important than the flood to them I would have thought.

Rivers flood, lakes flood and tsunamis occur. Most of not all of early people's lives centred along water courses, more food, better shelter and a means of transportation. Floods occur more often in spring then other times of the year in many parts and spring is the time that trees bud and grass turns green and animals become less scarce. It would be unnatural for these people to not have some flood stories. So Noah's people had a flood because people were wicked and the Blackfoot had a flood because the the above people had a baby from a marriage with a star and the Blackfoot children tore the baby apart. Old Man sent otters and beavers to find the land. Does sound a bit similar but very different as well.

All the peoples had a creation story does not mean Genesis is true either. If their flood stories are all true are also all of their gods and goddesses also true? Are Coyote and Loki the same character? Is Old Man, Oden and your God one and the same? Why is there no trickster in the Judeo-Christian but there is in the Norse, Cree, Blackfoot and the Hop? Do they have it right and the Bible is missing him?