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Old 05-10-2015, 11:23 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Maybe you need to reevaluate who really are Christians?

Those that have love towards all including their enemies
Those that do not participate in carnal warfare
Those that accept Jesus as God's salvation
Those that preach the Good News of the Kingdom just as Jesus commanded his disciples to do
Those that base their teachings on God's Word
Those that do not get involve in the divisions and hatred created by politics, prejudice, ethnic strife, etc.

Many JWs are involved in the trades and include plumbers, electricians, mechanics, welders as well as small businessmen. Apparently some have a problem with people making an honest living by getting their hands dirty and not pursuing a higher education.

There are also those like myself who have professional degrees. However I would never, even in my former faith, view people who had not pursued a higher education as somehow missing out or ignorant. By the way, my own children are JWs and pursuing college degrees. Ultimately it is an individual choice.
I'm glad you're giving your children a chance to wake up.
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Old 06-14-2015, 02:14 AM
 
Location: California USA
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I'm glad you're giving your children a chance to wake up.
Wake up from what?

Non belief that would condemn every man, woman, and child that has lived, lives and will ever live to only one life for an eternity. Cold and sad.
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Old 06-14-2015, 06:24 AM
 
Location: USA
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Wake up from what?

Non belief that would condemn every man, woman, and child that has lived, lives and will ever live to only one life for an eternity. Cold and sad.
That statement is evidence of an attitude which is almost identical to Christian fundamentalism. But they don't believe in the Trinity so they would be considered heretics by fundamentalism.
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Old 06-14-2015, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Wake up from what?

Non belief that would condemn every man, woman, and child that has lived, lives and will ever live to only one life for an eternity. Cold and sad.
Waking up from believing your second sentence is remotely true.
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:04 AM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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Wake up from what?

Non belief that would condemn every man, woman, and child that has lived, lives and will ever live to only one life for an eternity. Cold and sad.
Based on YOUR opinion(s)?
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Old 06-14-2015, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Forests of Maine
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That statement is evidence of an attitude which is almost identical to Christian fundamentalism. But they don't believe in the Trinity so they would be considered heretics by fundamentalism.
My church is firmly in the folds of fundamentalism, and we embrace Monotheism.
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:10 PM
 
Location: NSW
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Wake up from what?

Non belief that would condemn every man, woman, and child that has lived, lives and will ever live to only one life for an eternity. Cold and sad.
This is an elitist view held by Christian Fundamentalism as well.
It basically gives no hope to any atheist or any other non-Christian religion, which is complete contrast to what God would want.
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Old 06-14-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: USA
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This is an elitist view held by Christian Fundamentalism as well.
It basically gives no hope to any atheist or any other non-Christian religion, which is complete contrast to what God would want.
How do you know what "God" would want? I don't understand how people can claim to know such things.
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Old 06-16-2015, 05:47 PM
 
Location: US
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Maybe I need to re-evaluate my default stance that JWs are not really Christians, but a sort of fork of Christianity (to use a programming term). Because these JW teachings give me pause. There's a link on that page to several more, but these are arguably the best.

The irony for me is that I don't think there's much in these quotations that Christian fundamentalism would object to despite their insistence that JWs are cultists pushing a patently false religion; it's just that fundamentalists wouldn't be so overt and legalistic about most of them. For example the injunction to shun apostates would be accepted in principle, but not to the extent of invading personal privacy by, say, rebuking a parent for even speaking to a child who has left the faith. The Christian fundamentalist would say "let's not get so extreme as that" as well as "let's not give up hope" and "let's not stop showing unconditional love" but at a conceptual level would be just as harsh.

And then of course there's this, which is terribly familiar and could come from any evangelical's playbook, other than them feeling vaguely embarrassed to flog it so openly:
JW is more Jewish-y....
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Old 06-16-2015, 05:52 PM
 
Location: US
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My church is firmly in the folds of fundamentalism, and we embrace Monotheism.
And that is why you are a good man and by degrees you were made better...
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