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Old 12-28-2011, 01:48 PM
 
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Why would a god whose purpose it is to love his children design flesh-eating viruses which invade their vital organs and kill them slowly and painfully?


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Old 12-28-2011, 01:53 PM
 
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There's no evidence of god, so that most likely came about from evolution. And when I say "most likely", I mean it did.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Why would a god whose purpose it is to love his children design flesh-eating viruses which invade their vital organs and kill them slowly and painfully?

God so loved the world that... VIruses aren't part of the world, just important to know about when creating anti-dotes. <stupid>
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:27 PM
 
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There are several conclusions to draw from this. You could say

- it means there is no God

or

- there is a God, but He is uncaring, arbitrary and capricious

or

- argumentam ad ignorantium: The Lord works in mysterious ways.

We can logically dismiss the last one above, it's not an explanation, but a surrender to ignorance.

I think the facts show that if there is a God, He's a lot more like an ADD kid with an ant farm than a kindly grandfather.
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:50 PM
 
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I think the facts show that if there is a God, He's a lot more like an ADD kid with an ant farm than a kindly grandfather.
And with a big magnifying glass on a sunny day....
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:51 PM
 
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Umm... who said God created that? Look up Process theism some time, I'm familiar with it moreso and it would say that the virus exists because God is a creator in a universe with freedom (it is not a mechanism) and that includes the potential for pain and suffering. God didn't create the viruses to hurt people but the possibility was always there that the viruses would do so despite God's desires, since a universe with freedom means that not everything has to obey God's will since God is not a coercive force in the universe.

In addition, the traditional concept of the Fall in the Christian faith says that things like viruses exist because free creatures chose their own way in the past rather than choosing to obey God, as a result the universe was cursed, not because God designed them to be malevolent. There are many things in the world that are not necessarily part of God's design.

The last bit, God as a kindly grandfather, is ridiculous. It's anthropomorphism of the worst variety . God is not your life coach, your buddy, and definitely not your grandfather. He has no moral obligations to human beings (he has no duties to human beings but is nontheless loving); he is not a moral agent but he is the source from which all moral obligations arise.
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:56 PM
 
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Viruses are the result of the fall of mankind and original sin.
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:59 PM
 
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And with a big magnifying glass on a sunny day....
I think like any 8 year old ADD kid, he's probably got scarier things than that in his arsenal.


Like gamma-ray bursts. Those are ****ing scary.
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Old 12-28-2011, 03:00 PM
 
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Viruses are the result of the fall of mankind and original sin.
Which means that God is an arbitrary and carpricious jerk.

Sorry, not buying it.

Classical Taoists have it closest to reality, I think.
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Old 12-28-2011, 03:02 PM
 
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- argumentam ad ignorantium: The Lord works in mysterious ways.

We can logically dismiss the last one above, it's not an explanation, but a surrender to ignorance.
Are you sure you've properly prepared yourself for the answer to your question (OP)? It could be that there is a perfectly good explanation, but you're simply not "holding' in a place where the answer could make sense to you.
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