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Had slaves, had wars. Had backwards opinions. Different from "you shall kill people" commands. Bible past OT does not advocate returning evil for evil, so it doesn't advocate these attacks at the clinic.
After the Paris attacks, the day after in fact, someone had the gall to Xerox copies of a paper recruiting muslims. If you tell me that most Muslims aren't secretly viewing violence on the western world as a sort of victory against it, and I call you a liar.
Btw, it might interest you to know most of the original slavery was Muslim. We participated, but they sold them.
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With all respects, what exactly is the difference? Being afraid for their lives means no less than fearing being killed. It's called incitement to violence which is a crime in many countries. What this evangelist appears to be saying is that abortion doctors should be what? Made to feel as though their lives were threatened? See what I'm saying? It's not the same same as calling for them to be assassinated but it comes pretty close. I feel that abortion doctors should all sue this person.
The theist apologists regularly try to convince themselves that speaking of "an agricultural implement for pushing into soil with the purpose of moving it about" means that you don't have to admit you are talking about a spade.
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Reason: need a rewrite
Deliberate ignorance of Islam is a standard tool in the fundamentalist's tool chest. Since fundamentalist belief is so firmly grounded in irrational fear, they are well-versed in using irrational fear to defend their perspective and promulgate the hate that they wish to promote.
Are you serious? Do you honestly believe any of us support the idea of killing abortionists? Of course not.
But there is an issue with the article. Mother shooter it mentioned was not a "Christian terrorist". There is no such animal. There is nothing in the Bible that calls for us to murder. Anyone that kills in cold blood is not a Christian because Christians don't so that.
The problem is that the rest of us Christians in the country--especially those with the ear of the media at their disposal--fail to do the very thing we criticize moderate Muslims for failing to do: We fail to stand up publicly denounce such men and deny their Christianity.
We fail to stand up publicly denounce such men and deny their Christianity.
Denying their Christianity is part of the failure. They can explain to you in great detail how their perspective is a direct and true interpretation of Christian teachings. You disagree with their interpretation, and moreover find their interpretation morally reprehensible. That's different from trying to disclaim how Christianity, itself, fosters their corrupt perspective. You need/want Christianity to change into something within which such reprehensible perspectives are absent, not just disclaimed. Christianity will not fully transform into your superior interpretation of it until you acknowledge the corruption and work to root it out, through the modeling of moral behaviors, and a prioritization of condemning the offensive aspects within your cohort higher than the promulgation of your opinions about what you don't like about other cohorts.
Clean up your own mess, first, before you start commenting on what you feel are the messes of others.
The problem is that the rest of us Christians in the country--especially those with the ear of the media at their disposal--fail to do the very thing we criticize moderate Muslims for failing to do: We fail to stand up publicly denounce such men and deny their Christianity.
You totally nailed it in this post. Forty years ago most Muslim countries that are now under the thumbs of the fundamentalists were much more open tolerant countries but no one stood up against the fundamentalists when they first became a force. Last week I looked at a posting of photographs of Afghan women from the sixties and by their dress you would think the photos were taken in Europe or even North America. A few years later burka replaced sleeveless dresses.
By ignoring the words and actions of the more radical fundamentalist Christians and demonizing all atheists for the words or actions of a radical atheist, the fundamentalists are unwitting pawns of the radicals. It is the fact of the States being a more secular and a more religious diverse nation plus the economic status not the difference in religion that will prevent it from going down the road that Afghanistan went. Uganda and other Christian African countries illustrate what Christian fundamentalism can look like in its early stages.
I will be labeled anti Christian by some on this forum for this post. That is a very small price to pay. The fundamentalists of all religion believe that what they are doing in trying to make their country follow their rules is making it a better place. Diversity is what keeps us safe and free, not following one groups strict interpretation of a religious text. Keep silent if you favourable the more radical becoming more radical in their voice.
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