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What is it with these nutcase Christian leaders many of them pastors, who keep coming up with these incendiary comments?
This is not some 34 church member pastor that heads a Westboro Baptist church group, but Jerry Falwell Jr, who heads the largest Christian university in the United States. This is a mainstream evangelical Christian, and one whose words way too many people in the United States of America listen to.
We have had complaints here on this board from those who view the fundi lifestyle as sacrosanct, that I keep posting on these issues. As I've said before, it's such a target rich environment, with leaders again and again making these outrageous claims and taking these outrageous positions. They're no better than the fundamentalist Muslims who making similar statements, endorsing their radicals.
The sad part is, we're going to see a number of our board fundies jump aboard and defend Jerry Falwell Jr and his comments.
What is it with these nutcase Christian leaders many of them pastors, who keep coming up with these incendiary comments?
This is not some 34 church member pastor that heads a Westboro Baptist church group, but Jerry Falwell Jr, who heads the largest Christian university in the United States. This is a mainstream evangelical Christian, and one whose words way too many people in the United States of America listen to.
We have had complaints here on this board from those who view the fundi lifestyle as sacrosanct, that I keep posting on these issues. As I've said before, it's such a target rich environment, with leaders again and again making these outrageous claims and taking these outrageous positions. They're no better than the fundamentalist Muslims who making similar statements, endorsing their radicals.
The sad part is, we're going to see a number of our board fundies jump aboard and defend Jerry Falwell Jr and his comments.
I fell asleep with the TV on a few months ago. I woke up in the middle of the night to watch same weirdo named VanImp busting on Islam talking about how hateful it was. He said they demanded the murder of apostates and how the bible would never say that. BS Mr.VanImp. The bible most certainly calls for violence.
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Originally Posted by Arach Angle
well, it aint itialians that is for sure. But I get you ... ban guns and let bad people go.
I own a number of guns, and have lobbied against some firearms legislation including appearing in front of both our House and Senate justice committees. So you can take that shot off the table.
The issue is is that Falwell is promoting violence. But then he is a religious leader and they seem to have a habit of doing that whether they are Christian or Muslim. You don't see many secular people promoting violence against the religious Group, do you?
I own a number of guns, and have lobbied against some firearms legislation including appearing in front of both our House and Senate justice committees. So you can take that shot off the table.
The issue is is that Falwell is promoting violence. But then he is a religious leader and they seem to have a habit of doing that whether they are Christian or Muslim. You don't see many secular people promoting violence against the religious Group, do you?
You seem to ignore human history...of what has been nearly categorical in all societies since modern man has walked the Earth.
When one group is attacked by another, or senses the other as a threat, or undesirable to exist...they try to take out the whole group. And this isn't just the Romans, Genghis Khan, or groups from years ago.
For example: How did the Nazis deal with who they opposed? The U.S. nuked entire major Japanese cities, wiping out everything and everbody in them ...and would have kept doing it till we blasted all of Japan off the map, if they did not completely submit and surrender.
This is how mankind has typically rolled...and the way man has exclusively rolled in the face of what they determine to be existential threats.
Nothing new here that I see. Many feel...from a tactical standpoint, letting some remain is only setting up the allowance of the same future problem.
Read "Sun Tzu: The Art of War. A "take no prisoners, just completely wipe out the enemy" approach is many times an approach that is determined to be the most effective to accomplish overall goals.
NOTE: Do not associate my notation of "Reality of How It Is, and Has Been"...with any personal feeling I have myself on the issue.
Maybe Falwell noticed that none of the people killed in the recent attacks were armed. If they had been armed, maybe they could have fought back instead of being shot.
If the students at Liberty Univ start killing each other, he will probably change his policy. Let's see what happens.
Is he even kidding...people were supposed to carry guns into a Christmas party???
ETA: I'm not saying I have the magic answer here...but I am trying to envision the bloodbath of five or ten people in addition to attackers all spraying gunfire inside one room...I doubt ANYBODY would have walked out of there.
I'm also wondering at the wisdom of encouraging people who work with special needs people hands-on packing heat within easy reach. SMH.
What is it about violence that gets some people so excited to have their own "excuse" for being violent? It seems like a sickness to me. I don't get a saddened and worried vibe here. I get more like "Let's all be Clint Eastwood, it's a party, we finally have a specific target that it would be okay to take out our homicidal natures on."
Just gives me a really sick feeling and makes me wonder just whom I should really be afraid of here.
Neither Muslims should be attacking us, nor should we should attack Muslims.
You guys need to read the constitution. We do in fact have the right to carry guns. Crazy people probably should not be carrying them. But sure go ahead and disarm yourself if you want to be a sitting duck for whatever terrorist comes along. Because you can be damned sure they will obviously respect our gun control laws, right?
Americans should be armed so they can prevent rape and bullying from terrorists. Crazy fundies shouldn't.
Switzerland is a good model of the correct use of guns. They have them, but do not invade other countries. These are only to defend their borders.
Not "go kill me some Muslims". But maybe "good fences make good neighbors."
Last edited by bulmabriefs144; 12-06-2015 at 11:30 PM..
Well it seemed to me he was talking about 'ending those muslims' who were actively in the process of murdering people.I'm not a huge fan of Falwell nor his brand of christianity but i'm all for people 'ending muslims,methodists,or martians' if they are in the middle of an act of mass murder.One cop in Texas with a handgun took out two assault rifle wielding muslims before they managed to kill anyone.Three Americans managed to take out a heavily armed muslim with their bare hands before he could kill anyone on a train in France several months back but generally if only the murderers have guns a lot of people are going to die until someone gets there with one to shoot back.
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