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Old 03-06-2016, 10:58 AM
 
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Yes, of course it comes to belief, but it seems to me, and many others, that if one takes the bible literally, which many do, that one must stretch one's credulity to accept it all.

But if you accept talking donkeys, why not seer stones? (Mormon)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not body thetans? (Scientology)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not flying horses? (Islam)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not in that donkey's atman? (Hinduism)

And please, don't tell us because the bible tells you so; that is a circular argument.
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Old 03-06-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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Because a talking donkey is a familiar absurdity, while a body thetan is an unfamiliar absurdity.

Unfamiliar absurdities can be spotted a mile away. Familiar absurdities are sacred.

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Old 03-06-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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Yes, of course it comes to belief, but it seems to me, and many others, that if one takes the bible literally, which many do, that one must stretch one's credulity to accept it all.

But if you accept talking donkeys, why not seer stones? (Mormon)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not body thetans? (Scientology)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not flying horses? (Islam)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not in that donkey's atman? (Hinduism)

And please, don't tell us because the bible tells you so; that is a circular argument.

Hey, I believe in Mr. Ed, of course of course.
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Old 03-06-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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Hey, I believe in Mr. Ed, of course of course.
No less credible than a talking snake...
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Old 03-06-2016, 12:24 PM
 
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Because a talking donkey is a familiar absurdity, while a body thetan is an unfamiliar absurdity.

Unfamiliar absurdities can be spotted a mile away. Familiar absurdities are sacred.
Interesting perspective, and probably closer to the truth than not. Guess that is why people accept zombies walking around Jerusalem, "seen by many", and not question it at all. (Mt. 27:52)
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Old 03-06-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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Yes, of course it comes to belief, but it seems to me, and many others, that if one takes the bible literally, which many do, that one must stretch one's credulity to accept it all.

But if you accept talking donkeys, why not seer stones? (Mormon)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not body thetans? (Scientology)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not flying horses? (Islam)

If you accept talking donkeys, why not in that donkey's atman? (Hinduism)

And please, don't tell us because the bible tells you so; that is a circular argument.
Who said "we" didn't believe in the other? Just like God is real so is lucifer...it's a package deal (remember?). You think lucifer has no power? If he is able to make a person think or believe he is a angel of light, then why can't he be able to make you think "other" things also? So, sure there is "seer stones", "thetans", "flying horses" and bla bla bla... lucifer is able to do many things, that are not of God. ...many things.
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Old 03-06-2016, 05:17 PM
 
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In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true, either is true, or becomes true. - John Lilly
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Old 03-06-2016, 06:02 PM
 
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Who said "we" didn't believe in the other? Just like God is real so is lucifer...it's a package deal (remember?). You think lucifer has no power? If he is able to make a person think or believe he is a angel of light, then why can't he be able to make you think "other" things also? So, sure there is "seer stones", "thetans", "flying horses" and bla bla bla... lucifer is able to do many things, that are not of God. ...many things.
So you are OK with the talking donkey of the bible then? That had nothing to do with any lucifer you want to believe in.

Tell us why your OK with that donkey talking?
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Old 03-06-2016, 06:04 PM
 
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In the province of the mind, what one believes to be true, either is true, or becomes true. - John Lilly
John Lilly was especially attracted to the subjective idealism of Anglo-Irish theologian and philosopher George Berkeley. - Convinced adherent of Christianity, Berkeley believed God to be present as an immediate cause of all our experiences. He did not evade the question of the external source of the diversity of the sense data at the disposal of the human individual. He strove simply to show that the causes of sensations could not be things, because what we called things, and considered without grounds to be something different from our sensations, were built up wholly from sensations. There must consequently be some other external source of the inexhaustible diversity of sensations. The source of our sensations, Berkeley concluded, could only be God; He gave them to man, who had to see in them signs and symbols that carried God's word.
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Old 03-06-2016, 06:24 PM
 
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John Lilly was especially attracted to the subjective idealism of Anglo-Irish theologian and philosopher George Berkeley. - Convinced adherent of Christianity, Berkeley believed God to be present as an immediate cause of all our experiences. He did not evade the question of the external source of the diversity of the sense data at the disposal of the human individual. He strove simply to show that the causes of sensations could not be things, because what we called things, and considered without grounds to be something different from our sensations, were built up wholly from sensations. There must consequently be some other external source of the inexhaustible diversity of sensations. The source of our sensations, Berkeley concluded, could only be God; He gave them to man, who had to see in them signs and symbols that carried God's word.
Ahem... you missed answering me about that talking donkey. An oversight or on purpose?
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