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Old 01-11-2009, 08:17 AM
 
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Most often called self hypnosis.....I believe it plays a large role in all religions, either intentionally or unintentionally. Simply put autosuggestion is a process where the person redraws their beliefs and associations through constant repetition of that which they want to believe until it is firmly implanted in the subconscious mind. The dominant thoughts that occupy a person's conscious mind, if present over a long period of time, train that person's subconscious mind to organize their beliefs according to those thoughts.

I have been searching for some explanation why some people believe the impossibilities contained in religious dogma, and would like your thoughts on this.
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Old 01-11-2009, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Western Cary, NC
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Most often called self hypnosis.....I believe it plays a large role in all religions, either intentionally or unintentionally. Simply put autosuggestion is a process where the person redraws their beliefs and associations through constant repetition of that which they want to believe until it is firmly implanted in the subconscious mind. The dominant thoughts that occupy a person's conscious mind, if present over a long period of time, train that person's subconscious mind to organize their beliefs according to those thoughts.

I have been searching for some explanation why some people believe the impossibilities contained in religious dogma, and would like your thoughts on this.
I think education has a great deal to do with a person’s ability to step pass the wall of religious brainwashing into an arena of free thought. If we look in regional areas of the world where education levels are low we find the strong fundamental religions which in many cases are less tolerant of other religions. We also see the greatest levels of violence.
We also see major pushes by established religions into these areas, hoping to shore up their dwindling coffers and memberships. Education is the cure to many problems in this world, but will also be the eventual death of organized religion.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Nashville, Tn
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I think the reason that religious beliefs become established in someone is often rooted in their childhood and the influence of their parents and society. Many people come to believe that it's wrong to even question their faith even though it's irrational. If we could somehow skip a generation of this religious indoctrination I think that religion would largely disappear.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in the middle
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Most often called self hypnosis.....I believe it plays a large role in all religions, either intentionally or unintentionally. Simply put autosuggestion is a process where the person redraws their beliefs and associations through constant repetition of that which they want to believe until it is firmly implanted in the subconscious mind. The dominant thoughts that occupy a person's conscious mind, if present over a long period of time, train that person's subconscious mind to organize their beliefs according to those thoughts.

I have been searching for some explanation why some people believe the impossibilities contained in religious dogma, and would like your thoughts on this.
Ya know, if the idea that believers have somehow hypnotized themselves into believing what they do helps *you* to understand them better, more power to you .

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I have been searching for some explanation why some people believe the impossibilities contained in religious dogma, and would like your thoughts on this.[/
Well I can only speak for myself, and I would replace "religious dogma" in this quote with Christianity...it's all about the RELATIONSHIP that I have with Jesus Christ. Yes, believe it or not, I have a relationship with Him. His Spirit communes with my spirit and because of this, I know He lives.

Living my life for Christ works for me, if you want to put it in those terms. I love Him and I know He loves me. I'm filled with more joy than you as an unbeliever will ever be able to understand, so why would I want to change that by abandoning my faith?

You want to talk about hypnotizing oneself....that would be a true case of self hypnosis, trying to convince myself that there is no God and what I have experienced over the past 40 years has just been "all in my head".

You may want to believe that I have been engaging in self hypnosis for the all these years and that's your perogative...but you would be wrong .
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:22 AM
 
Location: Sarasota, Florida
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I think the reason that religious beliefs become established in someone is often rooted in their childhood and the influence of their parents and society. Many people come to believe that it's wrong to even question their faith even though it's irrational. If we could somehow skip a generation of this religious indoctrination I think that religion would largely disappear.
I agree 100%
Religion starts from the childhood, everything you learn before age 13 will be permanently implanted in your brain, no doubts about it.
I posted a question a while back about Miracles that happened to people who were agnostics/atheists that made them turn to god. Guess what? No one has posted an answer. That tells me that people either lie, or just saying that they started to believe because it's more convenient, more "up to" society, or simply afraid to admit they're indeed agnostic or atheist.
That just shows that everyone here has been indoctrinated from the childhood, unless you give me a good story of a miracle that truly turned you to god, then i might change my opinion. Until then, no excuses.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:48 AM
 
Location: God's Country
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I agree Deb, I also have a relationship with the Living God. Unbelievers are always trying to come up with something they can understand about why we believe God and the Bible.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I agree Deb, I also have a relationship with the Living God. Unbelievers are always trying to come up with something they can understand about why we believe God and the Bible.
This is true...I do understand some of the aspects of why you believe, but when it comes to things like creation and Noah's ark and the exodus I am at a loss as to why these things are literally accepted, given the knowledge we have today. Can you explain why some accept these things as fact?
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:26 PM
 
Location: God's Country
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This is true...I do understand some of the aspects of why you believe, but when it comes to things like creation and Noah's ark and the exodus I am at a loss as to why these things are literally accepted, given the knowledge we have today. Can you explain why some accept these things as fact?
I guess it depends on if you believe the Bible is the trustworthy Word of God, and I do.
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:34 PM
 
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Do you think that's why God said to think about His Word constantly ???
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Old 01-11-2009, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I find that autosuggestion can be a very useful tool in life, and have used it myself, but was unaware that it could be done unintentionally. I find that a bit frightening.

Autosuggestion is differentiated from brainwashing or hypnosis in that it is a self induced process only. An idea may be introduced by another, but autosuggestion is the processes wherein one's own mind redefines its beliefs itself. Autosuggestion is normally thought of as a deliberate tool, but it can also refer to an unintentional process.

NationMaster - Encyclopedia: Autohypnosis
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