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Old 04-29-2016, 10:01 PM
 
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This is my personal opinion.

Whether Atheists or Believers, we know that no religion tells it's followers to prey on kids - and no religion tells it's followers to take the life of innocent people; however, we see that we have some Church Pastors out there that are convicted of Pedophilia, and we see that some "supposedly followers and representers of Islam" have brutally taken the life of innocent people.


So here is the logic - A pastor who believes in God and he believes in God's word in the Bible, then he is very less likely to prey on kids BECAUSE he is a true believer in God. YET we see that some Pastors have preyed on kids. Why?

There is only and only one logical explanation - This pedophile pastor is NOT an actual believer in God - He has NO Faith in God - He has NO faith in God's word - He has NO concern of God's Justice - he has no regard and respect of God - he does NOT believe in God - WHICH MAKES HIM a 100% Atheist deep in his heart - no matter how big of Pastor he is - he is an Atheist in my opinion.


Same goes with terrorists - A "Muslim" who believes in God and his word and his justice, then he is very less likely to take the lives of innocent people. YET we see that some supposedly self proclaimed Muslims have taken the lives of thousands of innocent people, including women and kids. Why? Because you think they misinterpret Quranic verses?
No sir, Quranic versus have been interpreted in thorough detail by many, many certified scholars of Islam 100's of years ago - and NONE of the interpretations tell the followers of Islam to start blowing themselves up in Public and/or take the life of innocent people to earn 70 virgins in heaven.

The moral and ethical guide for daily living in the light of Quran has been documented 100's of years ago by many Islamic scholars. And Muslims only need to follow it.

There is absolutely no need to reinvent the wheel - and whoever this, and he wrongly interprets Quranic versus to push his own personal agenda of killing innocent people, then he has absolutely no faith in God.

So there is ONLY and ONLY one possibility - this supposedly self proclaimed Muslim is not a believer in God - He has NO faith in God - He has no believe in God's word in Quran, He has NO concern of God's justice - he does NOT believe in God - WHICH MAKES HIM a 100% Atheist deep in his heart - no matter how long of a beard he has, and no matter how loudly he can shout "Allah Akbar". He is an Atheist, IMO.


Now, does that mean ALL Atheists are rapist and terrorists and criminals ? Absolutely not! But those who CLAIM to believe in God but go AGAINST God by killing the innocent and raping, are actually not the true believers of God.

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Old 04-29-2016, 10:13 PM
 
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Simple solution would be to lock up and gas all the atheists and you end up with zero crime, zero wars, zero poverty and zero discrimination.

I am very disappointed in you. So you think that one group of atheists would attack and kill other atheists for not disbelieving in the same god or having the wrong type of disbelief in a god. One way to scrub your hands clean and remove any responsibility from yourself. I guess when a Muslim kills an atheist he is doing it strickly for .....?
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:26 PM
 
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Simple solution would be to lock up and gas all the atheists and you end up with zero crime, zero wars, zero poverty and zero discrimination.

I am very disappointed in you. So you think that one group of atheists would attack and kill other atheists for not disbelieving in the same god or having the wrong type of disbelief in a god. One way to scrub your hands clean and remove any responsibility from yourself. I guess when a Muslim kills an atheist he is doing it strickly for .....?
No, simple solution would be, to accept that Religion does NOT tell it's followers to rape and kill. So if a supposedly "Religious man" rapes or kills, do NOT associate his actions rooting to his religious faith. What you need to admit is that, his religion and his faith are in contradiction to his evil actions.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:28 PM
 
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I guess when a Muslim kills an atheist he is doing it strickly for .....?
When a "supposedly Muslim" kills an INNOCENT human (regardless of, if the victim was an Atheist or not) then that "Supposedly Muslim" is going against his proclaimed faith - which means he does not practice his faith - which means he is not a believer in his faith - which means he has no faith in God - which means he is an Atheist.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:29 PM
 
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This is my personal opinion.



So there is ONLY and ONLY one possibility - this supposedly self proclaimed Muslim is not a believer in God - He has NO faith in God - He has no believe in God's word in Quran, He has NO concern of God's justice - he does NOT believe in God - WHICH MAKES HIM a 100% Atheist deep in his heart - no matter how long of a beard he has, and no matter how loudly he can shout "Allah Akbar". He is an Atheist, IMO.

Nah, Not true. How can you say that in one breath, and then in another, watch a family die in a Car Crash, or a Fire, and then say its "The Will of God?" Neither Atheists nor Christians go around killing people, but people have been killed by each, so you have a lame argument. People can kill people, and we all carry that instinct, hopefully hidden away, but its still there, like may Primitive instincts we carry, but don't act out unless we shift into survival mode, for some reason.


Almost everyone would Kill to survive, no matter what religion they have or don't have. Fact.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:31 PM
 
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Almost everyone would Kill to survive, no matter what religion they have or don't have. Fact.
ha !! Kill to survive?
We are talking about taking the innocent lives for follow humans.

Totally two separate ball games.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:21 PM
 
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No, simple solution would be, to accept that Religion does NOT tell it's followers to rape and kill. So if a supposedly "Religious man" rapes or kills, do NOT associate his actions rooting to his religious faith. What you need to admit is that, his religion and his faith are in contradiction to his evil actions.
However I do not blame his religion for telling him to go out and kill or rape. Sometimes a religious leader will do so. Other times religious people will minimize or even cover up the offenses. If you want to blame atheism for either examples you of course can, but don't expect to be taken seriously.

Churches have systemically hidden the abuse by their priests or ministers from the police and concregation and relocated to fresh pastures. The same need to protect your religion as you are showing was the cause of this. These priests and ministers did bad, those higher ups were just as bad but if you want to pretend that religious people can not do evil and those abusers had to be atheist then you are do better than the bishops who did the cover ups.

If you are talking about the rapes and murders in the Holy books, then when religious people claim we can only get our morals from those books, they need to accept the bad with the good.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:23 PM
 
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When a "supposedly Muslim" kills an INNOCENT human (regardless of, if the victim was an Atheist or not) then that "Supposedly Muslim" is going against his proclaimed faith - which means he does not practice his faith - which means he is not a believer in his faith - which means he has no faith in God - which means he is an Atheist.
So it is an atheist killing a fellow Atheist because he hates the concept of atheism? And that makes sense to you?
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:44 PM
 
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So it is an atheist killing a fellow Atheist because he hates the concept of atheism? And that makes sense to you?
No, the Atheist could be paid to kill a believer.
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Old 04-30-2016, 02:56 AM
 
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See there are some who engage to believe in false religion like these minister who abuse children have a fallen understanding of faith in God where they enjoy their sin to abuse , which is contrary to the ethics of God , and the terrorist who murders people to appease the gods which is contrary to God as they believe in a false religion ..................See God has His plan for man to have faith in Him and then there are fabricated ideas from men and his false ideas for faith in God , and only God ordained belief will work
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