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Old 03-31-2011, 04:07 AM
 
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Seeing the large numbers of Christians and pastors involved and after studying in depth freemasonry I am amazed that Christians cannot see how wrong it is. Read the book by Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma" he was the head of freemasonry from 1859-1891 and totally restructure freemasonry and still revered today by masons.


YouTube - Freemasonry and Christianity - ARE THEY COMPATIBLE? THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH HERE!
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Old 03-31-2011, 06:46 AM
 
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Seeing the large numbers of Christians and pastors involved and after studying in depth freemasonry I am amazed that Christians cannot see how wrong it is. Read the book by Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma" he was the head of freemasonry from 1859-1891 and totally restructure freemasonry and still revered today by masons.
Yes, they are compatible. What did you get out of Albert Pike's book?
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Old 03-31-2011, 08:24 AM
 
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No, they are not compatible.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:02 AM
 
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This post in this category is aimed at Christians and meant to provoke THOUGHT and to more intently look at Freemasonry. Morals and Dogma is written in 19th Century style and steeped in Eastern Mystiscim, Jewish Kaballahism, the old Esoterics, the occult and a hard read. It was designed for the higher degree's and plainly says that. To TRY to understand the book you have to look at its writer. This man was the highest ranking Illuminati in the Western world, a self avowed Luciferian Pontiff and stated to the 23 Supreme Councils in 1889 that to the 30th Degree and up it could be revealed that Freemasonry was a religion - the religion of Luciferian doctrine. Christians can clearly read what God says in the Bible as stated in the Youtube video I posted and if like me you can look at the home page mission statement of the NC State Lodge of Freemasonry and it is clearly nothing a true believer in God/Christian be part of! But that is up to each individual to decide and it must be based on in depth investigation into Freemasonry. Many of those who join have no clue and really are not interested in going beyond the first 3*. Some likely only join to be with friends/co-workers who are Masons and not really committed Masons. Again this thread is not to incite endless argument/debate but to encourage deep consideration/thought and sources of help in looking into Freemasonry.

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Old 03-31-2011, 09:23 AM
 
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I never cease to be amazed at how many people consider themselves to be experts about Freemasonry when they have never even set foot within a Masonic Temple. They seem to know all about the rituals without ever having participated in them and all about the beliefs when all they know is heresay.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:24 AM
 
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Watchman, I watched the video and my first question to you, are you a member of the Masonic Fraternity? Right from the beginning the biggest lie in that video is that the grand lodge of California has never seek to become a recognized religion, freemasonry is not a religion, it does not teach any religious dogma of any kind. I wonder, have you read the book Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike, I'll be happy to lend you one of my copies and your reference to Lucifer by Albert Pike is also wrong, he is using the ancient word of lucifer to refer to the planet Venus and Albert Pike was never a member of any Illuminati. There's a lot of misinformation that has been circulated for many years about Albert Pike and unless you are a member of the fraternity, you really have no knowledge at all about it. I'm speaking as a member of the Masonic Fraternity, I'm a Past Master of four Masonic Lodges in Washington, DC, served as a grand lodge officer of the Grand Lodge of the District of Columbia for four years, Passed Wise Master of Evangelist Chapter of Rose Croix, Scottish Rite Masons, and a 32nd degree K.C.C.H. Scottish Rite Mason. And I'm a Native American, not a Christian.
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Old 03-31-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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This post in this category is aimed at Christians and meant to provoke THOUGHT and to more intently look at Freemasonry. Morals and Dogma is written in 19th Century style and steeped in Eastern Mystiscim, Jewish Kaballahism, the old Esoterics, the occult and a hard read. It was designed for the higher degree's and plainly says that. To TRY to understand the book you have to look at its writer. This man was the highest ranking Illuminati in the Western world, a self avowed Luciferian Pontiff and stated to the 23 Supreme Councils in 1889 that to the 30th Degree and up it could be revealed that Freemasonry was a religion - the religion of Luciferian doctrine. Christians can clearly read what God says in the Bible as stated in the Youtube video I posted and if like me you can look at the home page mission statement of the NC State Lodge of Freemasonry and it is clearly nothing a true believer in God/Christian be part of! But that is up to each individual to decide and it must be based on in depth investigation into Freemasonry. Many of those who join have no clue and really are not interested in going beyond the first 3*. Some likely only join to be with friends/co-workers who are Masons and not really committed Masons. Again this thread is not to incite endless argument/debate but to encourage deep consideration/thought and sources of help in looking into Freemasonry.
You are trying to describe and make an association with a subject on something you obviously know nothing about. I am a 32nd - Northern Masonic Jurisdiction. Current Jr Deacon in my Lodge.

My suggestion to you is to talk to your local Masonic Lodge. Call, leave a message. Moderator cut: edit

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:27 AM
 
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I never cease to be amazed at how many people consider themselves to be experts about Freemasonry when they have never even set foot within a Masonic Temple. They seem to know all about the rituals without ever having participated in them and all about the beliefs when all they know is heresay.
But they have GOOGLE!
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Old 03-31-2011, 10:37 AM
 
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But they have GOOGLE!
Yeah, one of the sources of a lot of misinformation.....
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:30 PM
 
Location: West Virginia
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This post in this category is aimed at Christians and meant to provoke THOUGHT and to more intently look at Freemasonry. Morals and Dogma is written in 19th Century style and steeped in Eastern Mystiscim, Jewish Kaballahism, the old Esoterics, the occult and a hard read. It was designed for the higher degree's and plainly says that. To TRY to understand the book you have to look at its writer. This man was the highest ranking Illuminati in the Western world, a self avowed Luciferian Pontiff and stated to the 23 Supreme Councils in 1889 that to the 30th Degree and up it could be revealed that Freemasonry was a religion - the religion of Luciferian doctrine. Christians can clearly read what God says in the Bible as stated in the Youtube video I posted and if like me you can look at the home page mission statement of the NC State Lodge of Freemasonry and it is clearly nothing a true believer in God/Christian be part of! But that is up to each individual to decide and it must be based on in depth investigation into Freemasonry. Many of those who join have no clue and really are not interested in going beyond the first 3*. Some likely only join to be with friends/co-workers who are Masons and not really committed Masons. Again this thread is not to incite endless argument/debate but to encourage deep consideration/thought and sources of help in looking into Freemasonry.
The Illuminati existed only in Europe and only for about 10 years. It was not directly related to Freemasonry.

Freemasonry is not mentioned in the Bible, so whatever you chose to post on Youtube is irrelevant.

Obviously, you post was made to convince Christians that if they look deeply enough, they will see Freemasonry your way. I would suggest that anyone, Christian or non-Christian, having any questions about Freemasonry should ask a Freemason. Ask here and one of us will honestly answer your question. Freemasonry does not take a stand for or against ANY religion.
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