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Well, I just googled info about judgement day and it's another thing that I find illogical. It's God, why would he have to look through books and listen to an account of your life? Wouldn't the almighty know instantly everything there is about your life? Think about the terror that would actually cause people - why would a loving God put anyone through that, especially those who he lets in? Seems like more fear mongering to me which is unfortunate.
It's isn't any "God" who reviews your life - it's you.
But you will do so from a place stripped bare of the excuses and rationales with which most humans drape themselves.
Your psyche/soul will be naked and you will have no place else to look but inside.
Well, I just googled info about judgement day and it's another thing that I find illogical. It's God, why would he have to look through books and listen to an account of your life? Wouldn't the almighty know instantly everything there is about your life?
Seriously, haven't you ever heard of an analogy? Do you really think most Christians believe that God has this gargantuan book containing the names of everyone who has ever lived in it, along with a record of everything they ever did in their life? The point is that everything we do is known by God, as surely as if it were recorded on paper.
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Think about the terror that would actually cause people - why would a loving God put anyone through that, especially those who he lets in? Seems like more fear mongering to me which is unfortunate.
So you think it would be preferable for God to just give us commandments and then not bother holding us accountable for whether we obeyed them or not? That sounds like a pretty flaky God to me.
Seriously, haven't you ever heard of an analogy? Do you really think most Christians believe that God has this gargantuan book containing the names of everyone who has ever lived in it, along with a record of everything they ever did in their life? The point is that everything we do is known by God, as surely as if it were recorded on paper.
I'm not sure what parts most Christians take literally vs analogies or stories. Do most Christians literally believe in Noah's Ark or Adam and Eve?
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So you think it would be preferable for God to just give us commandments and then not bother holding us accountable for whether we obeyed them or not? That sounds like a pretty flaky God to me.
I guess I could have added the commandments to the list above too.
It really is sad that most Christians lack the mental capacity or intellectual honest to realize just how ridiculous it is to believe they hold the only key to a blissful afterlife and that the vast majority of humans, despite their geographical beliefs, deserve an eternal torment. If there were a just God he would likely be disgusted by the lack of common sense and courage to think for themselves.
Isn't it true for Jews as well?
Do Jews believe Jesus is in Heaven?
I'm interested to learn more about people's beliefs in the afterlife. If you feel that only those who are Christians can go to heaven, you believe that God isn't letting over 75% of the mankind into heaven. So God is already extremely selective and getting even more selective.
Christianity is a very special religion, and the special group could only accept the special people. Once you accept Christ is the Lord, you are already being selective.
May the Lord bless you and guide you see the lights of the Christ being triumphed on calvary.
It's isn't any "God" who reviews your life - it's you.
But you will do so from a place stripped bare of the excuses and rationales with which most humans drape themselves.
Your psyche/soul will be naked and you will have no place else to look but inside.
Nowhere to hide.
That's judgement.
I'm interested to learn more about people's beliefs in the afterlife. If you feel that only those who are Christians can go to heaven, you believe that God isn't letting over 75% of the mankind into heaven. So God is already extremely selective and getting even more selective.
Do you also believe in a judgement day, and if so, what is that like? Won't an extremely exclusive God be even more selective if he's already rejecting billions of great people just because they didn't win the religious lottery? I would think he would then only take the cream of the crop Christians, the ones who live lives full of compassion.
What percentage of Christians do you believe get into Heaven, and how certain are you that you'll be one of them?
These are honest questions that I thought about after a devote Catholic relative of mine surprisingly expressed his uncertainty about himself getting into heaven and after reading some posts on here from those who believe on those who believe you must be Christian to get into heaven.
I'm not all that concerned with the afterlife, my life being lived in the present and living a life of love toward all being the most important thing to me. But these are thought provoking questions, and those are the best kind, so I'm going to answer them.
This is Romans 2:14-16:
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Indeed, when Gentiles, who do not have the law, do by nature things required by the law, they are a law for themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the requirements of the law are written on their hearts, their consciences also bearing witness, and their thoughts sometimes accusing them and at other times even defending them. This will take place on the day when God judges people’s secrets through Jesus Christ, as my gospel declares.
It seems to say, to me, if your natural inclination is to be loving toward all (as Christ is), then you're already following His commandments (love God and one another as I have loved you).
I believe that there will be a judgment day. I also believe that there will be more mercy shown on that day than we can possibly imagine. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13)
Saying that seems to irritate a lot of people, but it's what I believe. Those that are irritated remind me of the older son in the prodigal son story. When the younger son comes home, and the father slaughters the calf and has an epic BBQ, the older son gets mad and is like "I've been serving you faithfully and obeying you all these years, and HE goes out and blows through his whole inheritance, and HE gets a party?? And the father says "you are always with me, what I have is yours, but we had to celebrate because he was dead and is now alive again, he was lost but now he's found."
I think, in the end, we all find our way back to the Father.
I'm not all that concerned with the afterlife, my life being lived in the present and living a life of love toward all being the most important thing to me.
I completely agree.
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But these are thought provoking questions, and those are the best kind, so I'm going to answer them.
This is Romans 2:14-16:
It seems to say, to me, if your natural inclination is to be loving toward all (as Christ is), then you're already following His commandments (love God and one another as I have loved you).
I believe that there will be a judgment day. I also believe that there will be more mercy shown on that day than we can possibly imagine. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (James 2:13)
Saying that seems to irritate a lot of people, but it's what I believe. Those that are irritated remind me of the older son in the prodigal son story. When the younger son comes home, and the father slaughters the calf and has an epic BBQ, the older son gets mad and is like "I've been serving you faithfully and obeying you all these years, and HE goes out and blows through his whole inheritance, and HE gets a party?? And the father says "you are always with me, what I have is yours, but we had to celebrate because he was dead and is now alive again, he was lost but now he's found."
I think, in the end, we all find our way back to the Father.
Saying anything about religion will irritate a lot of people Thanks for sharing your belief.
yup, totally agree. list the personality traits that these people have.
how would those traits in a person express atheism views and how would those traits express different views in theism? these all or nothing, black/white, and my way or you are wrong thinkers
Can those traits manifest in an atheist? Sure. But the "I got mine in heaven all the rest of y'all are going to burn in hell" is a specifically religious conceit.
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Thanks for sharing your belief.
