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Old 08-17-2018, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Valencia, Spain
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it was a few hours' discomfort and then a day or two having a rest, then up and about with a couple of cosmetic nail marks for identification purposes.
Quite so my dear old beast. I have said it for yonks...WHAT SACRIFICE. There is no sacrifice when you know that nothing serious is going to happen to you and within a day you are going to be as right as rain. Hundreds of thousands of men went off to two world wars last century knowing that they were unlikely to be coming back. Now THAT is a sacrifice. Thousands of men, and my old neighbour was one, suffered infinitely more pain and suffering ( for 4 years not an afternoon) in Japanese POW camps than the Jesus character ever suffered.
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Old 08-17-2018, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Jesus is God the Son, the 2nd person of the Trinity. The wrath of God the Father, the 1st person, was poured out on him.

Jesus lived perfectly, and fulfilled the Law, but was punished for our sin. He is the Passover lamb that allows us to live. You can trust in what Jesus did, or you can take the punishment for your own sin. It's up to you. Come to your Messiah, Richard. Don't harden your heart as your forefathers did in the wilderness.
So, instead of being "all loving", he was "all wrathful". Seems like a hater to me.
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:02 AM
 
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So, instead of being "all loving", he was "all wrathful". Seems like a hater to me.
No. Love, and hate, are both attributes of the same God. Jacob he loved, Esau he hated. He's a big God.
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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No. Love, and hate, are both attributes of the same God. Jacob he loved, Esau he hated. He's a big God.
I usually think of haters as being small.
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:14 AM
 
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I usually think of haters as being small.
That's because human beings have no basis to hate others, and when we do so, we do so hypocritically.
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Old 08-17-2018, 11:55 AM
 
Location: USA
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That's because human beings have no basis to hate others, and when we do so, we do so hypocritically.
And God's basis for hating others is... ?
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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And God's basis for hating others is... ?
Because unlike us, he actually is better than everyone else. He is perfect, and he is without flaw.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:43 PM
 
Location: US
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Jesus is God the Son, the 2nd person of the Trinity. The wrath of God the Father, the 1st person, was poured out on him.

Jesus lived perfectly, and fulfilled the Law, but was punished for our sin. He is the Passover lamb that allows us to live. You can trust in what Jesus did, or you can take the punishment for your own sin. It's up to you. Come to your Messiah, Richard. Don't harden your heart as your forefathers did in the wilderness.
Jesus said that he has a god and it is the same god as others have...How can a god have a god?...
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:48 PM
 
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Jesus said that he has a god and it is the same god as others have...How can a god have a god?...
Jesus has 2 natures -- God and man. He did pray to the Father. We saw that. But he was also God the Son.
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Old 08-17-2018, 12:49 PM
 
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Jesus is God. Simple enough.And the point of Deuternomy is that it shows you don't have it in you to stop doing bad.

Not God. He would actually be a Demigod. His mother was human.


So, when did you stop sinning? AKA- doing bad,
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