America, a Christian nation. Or is it? What did the founding fathers say? (churches, Christianity)

[Tired of the Nonsense]

Originally Posted by Arach Angle

yup, freedom of religion, separation of church and state, and capitalism is far superior to anti-religious socialism. thats what the founding father understood. One look around the world today and its self-evident.

freedom of religion and separation of church and state demonstrate an intellectual and emotional maturity. Its why I can't side with anti-religion and deny everything sects of atheism. they impede on freedom and are unscientific statements of belief.

When socialism is used judiciously, it seems to work fine. Many countries successfully employ varying amounts of socialism, including the US. It's authoritarian communism that has a history of not working out so well over the long haul. But authoritarian forms of government never seem to work out well in the long run.

I am suggesting that capitalism and socialism can and do successfully coexist, when both are managed properly in a democratic form of government.

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by Tired of the Nonsense

When socialism is used judiciously, it seems to work fine. Many countries successfully employ varying amounts of socialism, including the US. It's authoritarian communism that has a history of not working out so well over the long haul. But authoritarian forms of government never seem to work out well in the long run.

I am suggesting that capitalism and socialism can and do successfully coexist, when both are managed properly in a democratic form of government.

Big Brother aka soft communism.

[fishbrains]

Originally Posted by gabfest

Big Brother aka soft communism.

Aka, a social safety net that provides opportunity for people born into poverty and prevents your neighbors from starving to death.

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by fishbrains

Aka, a social safety net that provides opportunity for people born into poverty and prevents your neighbors from starving to death.

I agree, but it's a lot more complex than that.

[Tired of the Nonsense]

Originally Posted by gabfest

Big Brother aka soft communism.

Any system of rules and regulations can be considered a form of "big brotherism," I suppose. The alternative is anarchy.

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by Tired of the Nonsense

Any system of rules and regulations can be considered a form of "big brotherism," I suppose. The alternative is anarchy.

or, full on communism.

[fishbrains]

Originally Posted by gabfest

I agree, but it's a lot more complex than that.

Of course it is, but you were the one who brought it up using traditionally negative connotations. It is more complicated than you portrayed it as well.

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by fishbrains

Of course it is, but you were the one who brought it up using traditionally negative connotations. It is more complicated than you portrayed it as well.

How did I portray it?
Communism is what it is.

[fishbrains]

Originally Posted by gabfest

How did I portray it?
Communism is what it is.

It is just a few posts up, and you posted it less than an hour ago. Have you forgotten?

Originally Posted by gabfest

Big Brother aka soft communism.

[gabfest]

Originally Posted by fishbrains

It is just a few posts up, and you posted it less than an hour ago. Have you forgotten?

Soft communism is a reality, not an insult.