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Last time I looked, the US Constitution guarantees freedom of religion and dictates that a government can not establish an official religion over another. Yet atheists have twisted those laws to mean freedom from religion. In other words, they think it's their right to be shielded even seeing a minor reference to religion in public view. This vile extreme attempts focused only on Christianity just shows the level of contempt that they have in their hearts against Christ and his followers.
Here is the latest example:
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A memorial honoring fallen officers outside the new police station in Tega Cay is receiving a lot of attention. The memorial features a large stone which is engraved on the back with a scripture. The scripture on the stone was recently edited, leaving out the word "lord".
"These people you know they put their lives on the line every day for the safety of the community and that's what we hope people get out of it," said Tega Cay City Manager Charlie Funderburk.
For one thing, removing the word Lord is just silly. It is still a prayer. Who is the moment addressing if Lord no longer exists on it? Second, from what I read, only one person complained about the momument. So now they entire community has to accommodate the wishes of some anal person who can't stand the sight of the word Lord. Third, the momument was a donation. How is this any different than a piece of art on a public land that might be offensive to some people?
Last time I looked, the US Constitution guarantees freedom of religion and dictates that a government can not establish an official religion over another. Yet atheists have twisted those laws to mean freedom from religion. In other words, they think it's their right to be shielded even seeing a minor reference to religion in public view. This vile extreme attempts focused only on Christianity just shows the level of contempt that they have in their hearts against Christ and his followers.
For one thing, removing the word Lord is just silly. It is still a prayer. Who is the moment addressing if Lord no longer exists on it? Second, from what I read, only one person complained about the momument. So now they entire community has to accommodate the wishes of some anal person who can't stand the sight of the word Lord. Third, the momument was a donation. How is this any different than a piece of art on a public land that might be offensive to some people?
WAH WAH WAH, CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION, STUPID ATHEISTS!!!
That's what you sound like, Jeff.
Personally, I don't care one single little bit if the word "Lord" is on it. That being said, if you allow that, then you would have to allow other things on the property as well. Think residents would like having a Satanic memorial to fallen officers? We all know that you and others would have a fit if any other religion was given this preference. At this point, it is simply whining by the religious right because they don't get free reign to do whatever they want anymore.
And don't tell me that these people didn't know what they were doing when they donated it, either. Unless they live under a rock, they should have known this would end up being an issue, right or wrong. Now they are starting petitions, and having prayer circles, all because a word was removed...
You are also missing the point. This isn't just "public land", it is a police station. This is not a park, or a Memorial set up specifically to honor fallen officers, like you see elsewhere. Oh, and your own link says complaints came in immediately after it went up. Not one complaint, many complaints. Why lie about that, Jeff?
WAH WAH WAH, CHRISTIAN PERSECUTION, STUPID ATHEISTS!!!
That's what you sound like, Jeff.
Personally, I don't care one single little bit if the word "Lord" is on it. That being said, if you allow that, then you would have to allow other things on the property as well. Think residents would like having a Satanic memorial to fallen officers? We all know that you and others would have a fit if any other religion was given this preference. At this point, it is simply whining by the religious right because they don't get free reign to do whatever they want anymore.
And don't tell me that these people didn't know what they were doing when they donated it, either. Unless they live under a rock, they should have known this would end up being an issue, right or wrong. Now they are starting petitions, and having prayer circles, all because a word was removed...
You are also missing the point. This isn't just "public land", it is a police station. This is not a park, or a Memorial set up specifically to honor fallen officers, like you see elsewhere. Oh, and your own link says complaints came in immediately after it went up. Not one complaint, many complaints. Why lie about that, Jeff?
He didn't say "Stupid" atheists. You added that. You can't even represent us correctly when you directly reference a quote.
And for the record, there was recently a shrine to Satan worship included in a capital building, if I recall, for that same purpose. In any event, if the people of a community overwhelmingly want a memorial, why is it your business to suggest they can't? It's their right.
Last time I looked, the US Constitution guarantees freedom of religion and dictates that a government can not establish an official religion over another. Yet atheists have twisted those laws to mean freedom from religion. In other words, they think it's their right to be shielded even seeing a minor reference to religion in public view. This vile extreme attempts focused only on Christianity just shows the level of contempt that they have in their hearts against Christ and his followers.
I suggest you read, and re-read, and re-read your first sentence, as many times as it takes, until the meaning permeates your brain. Atheists have not twisted anything. Freedom of religion means just that; government not establishing one religion over another means just that.
He didn't say "Stupid" atheists. You added that. You can't even represent us correctly when you directly reference a quote.
And for the record, there was recently a shrine to Satan worship included in a capital building, if I recall, for that same purpose. In any event, if the people of a community overwhelmingly want a memorial, why is it your business to suggest they can't? It's their right.
Did you not see the part where I said, "This is what you SOUND like"? I clearly didn't say that Jeff said that, BF. You are the only one misrepresenting anything here.
Why is it their right to infringe on others rights? Because they are Christians? Because they are the majority? Our elections aren't even decided by the majority, BF, why should this be? They have the "right" to put it up, just as others have the "right" to complain and get it taken down.
Like I said, I personally don't give a rat's behind. I am an atheist, but love going into old churches, looking at old religious art, and things like that. I wouldn't have said anything about it. The fact is though, the community leaders aren't just there to serve Christians, and can't be seen as giving preference. Why this is so hard for you guys to understand baffles me.
Did you not see the part where I said, "This is what you SOUND like"? I clearly didn't say that Jeff said that, BF. You are the only one misrepresenting anything here.
Why is it their right to infringe on others rights? Because they are Christians? Because they are the majority? Our elections aren't even decided by the majority, BF, why should this be? They have the "right" to put it up, just as others have the "right" to complain and get it taken down.
Like I said, I personally don't give a rat's behind. I am an atheist, but love going into old churches, looking at old religious art, and things like that. I wouldn't have said anything about it. The fact is though, the community leaders aren't just there to serve Christians, and can't be seen as giving preference. Why this is so hard for you guys to understand baffles me.
Because they may look like adults, walk like adults and sometimes even talk like adults.
But they are spiritual toddlers. If they don't get their way, they throw tantrums.
I suggest you read, and re-read, and re-read your first sentence, as many times as it takes, until the meaning permeates your brain. Atheists have not twisted anything. Freedom of religion means just that; government not establishing one religion over another means just that.
Acknowledging or referencing a religion is not establishing a religion. IF the city declared that only Christian references would ever be permitted on public property then you have an argument. Not so in this case.
Because they may look like adults, walk like adults and sometimes even talk like adults.
But they are spiritual toddlers. If they don't get their way, they throw tantrums.
Kinda seems that way sometimes. The other question I have, is why they think they need all of these monuments, memorials, and that kind of stuff, with their religious stuff plastered all over it. You can have a fallen officers memorial without adding in the bible. They have just gotten their way for so long, they throw a tantrum when they are told no, I guess.
Acknowledging or referencing a religion is not establishing a religion. IF the city declared that only Christian references would ever be permitted on public property then you have an argument. Not so in this case.
Giving preference to one religion is certainly getting close to that line, don't you think?
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