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Old 09-18-2009, 02:03 PM
 
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What is the greater sin, the sin of Adam "ate apple" or the sin of the Jews "killed Jesus"!!!!?
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Old 09-18-2009, 02:37 PM
 
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The people chose Barabas. Adam's enlightenment was necessary for the peevish Sky daddy to continue his...plans.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Bellingham, WA
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On the one hand, Jesus had to die to fulfill his mission, so those who killed him must have been an integral part of the plan. In a way, it seems they had a part in "saving" mankind for everyone afterward, but no one seems to look at it this way.

But on the other hand, if Adam and Eve hadn't sinned in the first place, God wouldn't have had to send himself to save us from himself.
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Old 09-18-2009, 03:56 PM
 
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On the one hand, Jesus had to die to fulfill his mission, so those who killed him must have been an integral part of the plan. In a way, it seems they had a part in "saving" mankind for everyone afterward, but no one seems to look at it this way.

But on the other hand, if Adam and Eve hadn't sinned in the first place, God wouldn't have had to send himself to save us from himself.
After thousands of Years and hundreds of Prophets, finally God remember that there was a sin of Adam
and should be the scrafice !!! NO WAY
Do you know why? Because Jesus came after thousands of years and many Prophets, why He (God) did tell (his prophets)them that it was sin (the sin of Adam) and they must pray God to clean it and the Problem will Gone...and Jesus stay alive

And in this case thousands of years God don't forgive the human being because the Adam's sin .... it not fair because we are innocent.... and in this case it may be God a scrafice for Satan's sin!!!!
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Old 09-18-2009, 06:15 PM
 
Location: OKC
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I know Muslims like to blame the Jews for just about everything, but it was the Romans the killed Jesus, according to traditional Christian beliefs.
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Old 09-18-2009, 08:50 PM
 
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What is the greater sin, the sin of Adam "ate apple" or the sin of the Jews "killed Jesus"!!!!?
Adam's sin was not eating the fruit from the tree..His sin was disobedience..

The Jews did not kill Jesus.They were part of the conspiracy as were many others..I would suggest you read this article.Who Crucified Jesus Christ?

Here is a snippet:
There was the high priest, the priests, the rulers and the elders of the Jewish people, the scribes, Pharisees and Sadducees. The Romans also had a large part in the Crucifixion: Pilate, the governor of the Roman providence, gave the order and his soldiers carried it out.

IMO it seems that everyone of every religion, sect, and even nation had a hand in it..I think God did not want one people to be blamed for "killing the Son of God"
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:17 AM
 
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What is the greater sin, the sin of Adam "ate apple" or the sin of the Jews "killed Jesus"!!!!?
The way you worded this is very offensive....

Question 16.5: Did the Jews kill Jesus?



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Old 09-19-2009, 05:21 PM
 
Location: where the moss is taking over the villages
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The way you worded this is very offensive....

Question 16.5: Did the Jews kill Jesus?




It appears, from your link, that the account of Jesus's death, etc, is not a clear story (if we use the "word of god" as 'god's' word) & it is not historically viable... The Sanhedrin did not conduct such business as is described in the NT....

"Only Mark (14:53-65;
followed by Matt. 26:59-68) records a formal, Jewish, "night" trial
with accusations, witnesses, and a sentence. Luke records a morning
hearing before the Sanhedrin (Luke 22:66-71) without formal
sentencing, and John has separate appearances before Annas (at night)
and Caiaphas (in the morning) who conducts an interrogation (18:12-
24)."

What the the heck. The "gospel truth" has disparate stories?

On topic: my opinion... is I don't understand how the question matters... If the people who ssssupposedly killed Jesus were fulfilling a plan..... so that would seem to rule them out ... Adam would seem to be the greater sinner but he was just a first timer! And really who are we to judge who commited the greater sin???...

Kate

Last edited by sarahkate_m; 09-19-2009 at 06:34 PM.. Reason: back on topic
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Old 09-19-2009, 11:37 PM
 
Location: USA
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It appears, from your link, that the account of Jesus's death, etc, is not a clear story (if we use the "word of god" as 'god's' word) & it is not historically viable... The Sanhedrin did not conduct such business as is described in the NT....

"Only Mark (14:53-65;
followed by Matt. 26:59-68) records a formal, Jewish, "night" trial
with accusations, witnesses, and a sentence. Luke records a morning
hearing before the Sanhedrin (Luke 22:66-71) without formal
sentencing, and John has separate appearances before Annas (at night)
and Caiaphas (in the morning) who conducts an interrogation (18:12-
24)."

What the the heck. The "gospel truth" has disparate stories?

On topic: my opinion... is I don't understand how the question matters... If the people who ssssupposedly killed Jesus were fulfilling a plan..... so that would seem to rule them out ... Adam would seem to be the greater sinner but he was just a first timer! And really who are we to judge who commited the greater sin???...

Kate
You assume I'm a Christian?
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:18 AM
 
Location: where the moss is taking over the villages
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You assume I'm a Christian?
no .... just using your post to make a point!

kind regards, kate

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